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EUREKA - Roman army troops
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12-15-2009, 11:10 AM
Yeah, I was just going to say that... actually a lot of that went over my head. While I wholeheartedly agree with what I think was the underlying point, that human affairs never neatly and consistently fit a mathematical formula, I don't think Stephen is using 'maths and maths alone' - his starting point is to trust the ancient sources to know what they were talking about (at least for their own time, if not for the time they were describing), to use them and then use the maths to look for a unifiying system. If such a formulaic organizing principle existed and persisted across the lifespan of the empire, that would be a really cool thing to identify, especially if in the process it resolves apparent inconsistencies among the surviving sources without resorting to saying 'x' must have made a mistake. But such a system would not preclude wide variations in actual practice at any given point in time, with local expedience overriding the theoretical ideal, and it certainly doesn't devalue any light the archaeology or any other discipline can throw on specific instances of those wide variations.

Probably I have just missed the point of what everyone was saying!

Phil Sidnell
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EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 08-11-2007, 03:39 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Magnus - 08-11-2007, 04:14 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 08-13-2007, 03:33 AM
Eureka - by Paullus Scipio - 08-13-2007, 04:35 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 08-15-2007, 05:00 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by maius - 08-15-2007, 06:55 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 08-17-2007, 02:51 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Tarbicus - 08-17-2007, 07:19 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 08-18-2007, 06:00 AM
Eureka - by Paullus Scipio - 08-18-2007, 06:19 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 08-18-2007, 10:40 AM
Roman math - by richard - 08-18-2007, 11:18 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Sean Manning - 08-19-2007, 05:55 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 08-20-2007, 03:39 AM
Eureka - by Paullus Scipio - 08-20-2007, 04:27 AM
Eureka! - by Paullus Scipio - 08-20-2007, 06:46 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 08-21-2007, 07:25 AM
Eureka - by Paullus Scipio - 08-22-2007, 12:59 AM
Eureka - by Paullus Scipio - 08-22-2007, 03:15 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 09-10-2007, 05:58 AM
Eureka - by Paullus Scipio - 09-10-2007, 07:00 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Tarbicus - 09-10-2007, 07:31 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 09-12-2007, 06:40 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Sardaukar - 09-12-2007, 08:17 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by SigniferOne - 09-12-2007, 06:10 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Tarbicus - 09-13-2007, 06:22 AM
Re: Eureka - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 09-13-2007, 06:40 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Sardaukar - 09-13-2007, 07:58 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Sardaukar - 09-13-2007, 08:24 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 09-13-2007, 09:08 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 09-13-2007, 09:12 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 09-13-2007, 10:22 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by philsidnell - 09-13-2007, 11:10 AM
Eureka - by Paullus Scipio - 09-13-2007, 09:19 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 09-14-2007, 05:17 AM
Eureka - by philsidnell - 09-14-2007, 08:53 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 09-14-2007, 09:55 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Ross Cowan - 09-14-2007, 10:19 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 09-15-2007, 05:08 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Tarbicus - 09-15-2007, 09:29 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Thersites - 09-16-2007, 07:42 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 09-17-2007, 02:54 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Sean Manning - 09-17-2007, 06:43 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 09-19-2007, 03:59 AM
Eureka - by Paullus Scipio - 09-19-2007, 04:24 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by philsidnell - 09-19-2007, 08:48 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by philsidnell - 09-19-2007, 08:51 AM
Eureka - by Paullus Scipio - 09-19-2007, 09:18 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Sean Manning - 09-19-2007, 10:59 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 09-20-2007, 03:18 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Tarbicus - 09-20-2007, 06:30 AM
Eureka - by Paullus Scipio - 09-20-2007, 07:36 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 09-26-2007, 03:06 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Tarbicus - 09-26-2007, 06:06 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 09-28-2007, 05:30 AM
Eureka - by Paullus Scipio - 09-28-2007, 06:40 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Matthew - 09-30-2007, 11:12 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 10-01-2007, 03:48 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 10-01-2007, 04:04 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Mithras - 10-01-2007, 10:15 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 10-05-2007, 06:28 AM
Eureka - by Paullus Scipio - 10-05-2007, 07:25 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 10-06-2007, 03:44 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 10-06-2007, 03:46 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Tarbicus - 10-06-2007, 05:59 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by philsidnell - 10-06-2007, 09:51 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Tarbicus - 10-06-2007, 12:47 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Sardaukar - 10-06-2007, 04:50 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 10-13-2007, 04:21 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 10-15-2007, 09:07 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 11-26-2007, 04:33 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Matthew - 11-29-2007, 02:04 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-01-2007, 03:05 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Matthew - 12-01-2007, 04:20 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-05-2007, 03:04 AM
Eureka - Roman Army units - by Paullus Scipio - 12-05-2007, 04:27 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-06-2007, 05:09 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 01-06-2008, 07:04 AM
EUREKA -Roman troops - by Paullus Scipio - 01-06-2008, 07:15 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 01-06-2008, 03:47 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Sean Manning - 01-06-2008, 06:56 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Thersites - 11-18-2008, 10:05 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Tarbicus - 11-18-2008, 11:45 PM
Eureka! - by Paullus Scipio - 11-19-2008, 01:09 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Thersites - 11-20-2008, 10:35 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Lothia - 11-25-2008, 03:21 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 11-25-2008, 04:38 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 11-28-2008, 07:37 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 11-28-2008, 10:32 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Sean Manning - 11-28-2008, 04:55 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 11-29-2008, 05:14 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 11-29-2008, 05:39 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-01-2008, 02:37 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-02-2008, 03:02 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-02-2008, 03:08 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-02-2008, 09:41 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Sean Manning - 12-02-2008, 04:45 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-07-2008, 10:35 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 01-28-2009, 10:32 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Vincula - 01-28-2009, 03:34 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 01-29-2009, 08:26 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by SigniferOne - 02-02-2009, 03:51 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 02-06-2009, 09:08 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by M. Demetrius - 02-06-2009, 02:31 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 02-06-2009, 03:39 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by M. Demetrius - 02-06-2009, 04:01 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by SigniferOne - 02-06-2009, 04:42 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 02-06-2009, 05:52 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by SigniferOne - 02-06-2009, 06:09 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 02-06-2009, 07:12 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 02-07-2009, 10:49 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by M. Demetrius - 02-13-2009, 10:12 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 02-14-2009, 07:16 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 02-14-2009, 04:17 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Matthew - 02-15-2009, 07:34 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 02-16-2009, 03:40 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 02-16-2009, 10:18 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 02-22-2009, 04:37 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Cave Equum - 03-04-2009, 12:54 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Gorgon - 04-08-2009, 07:44 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 04-13-2009, 03:20 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Gorgon - 04-13-2009, 03:30 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 04-28-2009, 06:30 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Gorgon - 04-28-2009, 02:12 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 05-02-2009, 01:53 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by philsidnell - 12-01-2009, 01:03 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 12-01-2009, 01:36 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Epictetus - 12-01-2009, 01:57 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 12-01-2009, 02:22 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by philsidnell - 12-02-2009, 12:25 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 12-02-2009, 12:25 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by philsidnell - 12-02-2009, 12:39 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-04-2009, 04:17 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by philsidnell - 12-04-2009, 08:20 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by philsidnell - 12-04-2009, 09:17 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by mcbishop - 12-04-2009, 12:30 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 12-04-2009, 01:00 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by philsidnell - 12-04-2009, 01:34 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-11-2009, 05:09 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by philsidnell - 12-11-2009, 09:41 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 12-11-2009, 10:49 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-12-2009, 04:45 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-12-2009, 05:05 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Epictetus - 12-12-2009, 06:03 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 12-12-2009, 10:34 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by mcbishop - 12-12-2009, 10:38 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-13-2009, 03:21 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-14-2009, 03:50 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-14-2009, 04:15 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by M. Demetrius - 12-14-2009, 02:37 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Cheyenne - 12-14-2009, 11:15 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by philsidnell - 12-15-2009, 11:10 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-16-2009, 01:40 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by M. Demetrius - 12-16-2009, 01:49 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 12-16-2009, 04:32 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Alexandr K - 12-17-2009, 06:43 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-18-2009, 04:22 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by M. Demetrius - 12-18-2009, 04:57 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Sean Manning - 12-18-2009, 05:23 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 12-18-2009, 01:46 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by M. Demetrius - 12-18-2009, 02:20 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by mcbishop - 12-19-2009, 12:12 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-21-2009, 02:31 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-21-2009, 02:32 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-21-2009, 02:32 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Epictetus - 12-21-2009, 06:37 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 12-21-2009, 10:03 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by M. Demetrius - 12-21-2009, 01:24 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Sean Manning - 12-23-2009, 03:00 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 12-23-2009, 06:15 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 12-26-2009, 03:25 AM
Re: Eureka - by D B Campbell - 12-27-2009, 01:27 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by philsidnell - 09-09-2010, 03:36 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 09-22-2010, 03:54 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by adonys - 10-06-2010, 09:18 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Sean Manning - 10-07-2010, 04:27 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 10-08-2010, 03:07 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by jkaler48 - 10-08-2010, 03:50 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Epictetus - 10-08-2010, 07:05 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Matthew Amt - 10-08-2010, 03:33 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by jkaler48 - 10-08-2010, 05:17 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 10-31-2010, 04:47 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by nickw - 10-31-2010, 06:37 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Matthew Amt - 10-31-2010, 05:14 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by D B Campbell - 10-31-2010, 09:29 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by antiochus - 11-14-2010, 11:58 PM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by nickw - 11-16-2010, 09:51 AM
Re: EUREKA - Roman army troops - by Cheyenne - 11-16-2010, 05:02 PM

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