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Macedonian Silver Shields
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Hi Paul/Paullus and thanks for the welcome.

Yes the Argyraspids were the hypaspists and, though some would argue the toss, that remains my opinion. There is little doubt that they were rewarded with the silver as the king's infantry Guards unit.

Again, I wouldn't become overly concerned with the pelte/aspis argument. These blokes knew well the sarissa and its use. The hypaspist court guard carried such - a rather odd thing but there you go. As well, the Argyraspids are well attested operating in phalanx warfare under Eumenes both at Paraetecene and Gabiene. It is my view that, all other things being equal, the hypaspists fought the formal pitched battles (Gaugamela for example) armed as were the taxies of the phalanx. They may well have worn a cuirass. Outside of these engagements they almost certainly were deployed in a version of the hoplite panoply – particularly ascending scaling ladders etc.

As to their age, it is not only Plutarch who mentions it but Diodorus as well. This from the same source Hieronymus of Cardia. Hieronymus, whilst having his colour to apply, had no reason to exaggerate the age or actions of the Argyraspids under Eumenes’ command. After all, his description of them taking to his long term patron’s (Antigonus) phalanx is hardly likely to ingratiate him.
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Macedonian Silver Shields - by Johnny Shumate - 08-09-2007, 08:19 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by geala - 08-10-2007, 07:22 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by hoplite14gr - 08-10-2007, 08:56 AM
"Silver Shields" - by Paullus Scipio - 08-11-2007, 12:19 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by hoplite14gr - 08-11-2007, 09:58 PM
Re: - by Johnny Shumate - 08-11-2007, 11:09 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by hoplite14gr - 08-12-2007, 09:25 AM
re - by Johnny Shumate - 08-12-2007, 12:18 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by hoplite14gr - 08-12-2007, 12:30 PM
silver shields - by Paullus Scipio - 08-12-2007, 09:43 PM
Silvershields - by Paullus Scipio - 08-13-2007, 05:16 AM
Silver shields - by Paullus Scipio - 08-13-2007, 06:39 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by hoplite14gr - 08-13-2007, 08:42 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Comerus Gallus - 08-13-2007, 03:33 PM
re - by Johnny Shumate - 08-13-2007, 03:49 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by hoplite14gr - 08-13-2007, 08:51 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Mythos_Ruler - 08-19-2007, 07:47 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by hoplite14gr - 08-20-2007, 12:42 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 10-28-2007, 02:01 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by PMBardunias - 10-28-2007, 04:43 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 10-28-2007, 05:07 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 10-28-2007, 05:12 AM
Argyraspides - by Paullus Scipio - 10-28-2007, 07:29 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 10-28-2007, 09:39 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by PMBardunias - 10-28-2007, 03:34 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by hoplite14gr - 10-28-2007, 03:48 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Sean Manning - 10-28-2007, 05:46 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 10-28-2007, 09:58 PM
Argyraspides - by Paullus Scipio - 10-28-2007, 09:59 PM
Argyraspides - by Paullus Scipio - 10-28-2007, 10:41 PM
Re: Argyraspides - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 10-28-2007, 11:14 PM
Re: Argyraspides - by Paralus - 10-28-2007, 11:38 PM
Argyraspides - by Paullus Scipio - 10-29-2007, 12:34 AM
Re: Argyraspides - by Paralus - 10-29-2007, 04:33 AM
Argyraspides - by Paullus Scipio - 10-29-2007, 06:39 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 10-29-2007, 07:50 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by hoplite14gr - 10-29-2007, 09:17 AM
Re: "Silver Shields" - by MeinPanzer - 10-29-2007, 09:43 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 10-29-2007, 12:17 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by MeinPanzer - 10-29-2007, 12:19 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by hoplite14gr - 10-29-2007, 02:08 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by PMBardunias - 10-29-2007, 02:34 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by hoplite14gr - 10-29-2007, 02:48 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 10-29-2007, 09:07 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 10-29-2007, 09:27 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 10-29-2007, 09:43 PM
Argyraspides - by Paullus Scipio - 10-29-2007, 11:03 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paullus Scipio - 10-30-2007, 01:26 AM
Macedonian pelte - by Paullus Scipio - 10-30-2007, 01:35 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by PMBardunias - 10-30-2007, 03:00 AM
Hopla - by Paullus Scipio - 10-30-2007, 03:33 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by PMBardunias - 10-30-2007, 05:23 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by PMBardunias - 10-30-2007, 05:29 AM
Hopla/Panoply - by Paullus Scipio - 10-30-2007, 06:38 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by hoplite14gr - 10-30-2007, 07:05 AM
Hypaspist weapons - by Paullus Scipio - 10-30-2007, 07:18 AM
Murder of Cleitus - by Paullus Scipio - 10-30-2007, 09:51 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 10-30-2007, 10:45 AM
Re: Macedonian pelte - by MeinPanzer - 10-30-2007, 10:47 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by hoplite14gr - 10-30-2007, 03:18 PM
Hypaspist armament - by Paullus Scipio - 10-30-2007, 11:49 PM
Concave pelte - by Paullus Scipio - 10-31-2007, 12:19 AM
Hypaspist armament - by Paullus Scipio - 10-31-2007, 03:15 AM
Re: Hypaspist armament - by Paralus - 10-31-2007, 04:28 AM
Silver shields - by Paullus Scipio - 10-31-2007, 04:58 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 10-31-2007, 05:15 AM
Re: Concave pelte - by MeinPanzer - 10-31-2007, 11:03 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by geala - 10-31-2007, 12:12 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by MeinPanzer - 10-31-2007, 12:34 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by MeinPanzer - 10-31-2007, 01:05 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by geala - 10-31-2007, 01:37 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Duncan Head - 10-31-2007, 03:51 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by MeinPanzer - 10-31-2007, 04:34 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by PMBardunias - 10-31-2007, 05:01 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Duncan Head - 10-31-2007, 05:11 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 10-31-2007, 09:21 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 11-01-2007, 02:27 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by geala - 11-01-2007, 07:03 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 11-01-2007, 10:00 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 11-01-2007, 10:57 AM
Re: Silver shields - by Paralus - 11-01-2007, 11:10 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by MeinPanzer - 11-01-2007, 11:24 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 11-01-2007, 11:28 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by MeinPanzer - 11-01-2007, 11:40 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 11-01-2007, 11:47 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by MeinPanzer - 11-01-2007, 11:51 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 11-01-2007, 12:02 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Hypaspist - 11-03-2007, 11:40 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Hypaspist - 11-04-2007, 02:30 AM
Argyraspides - by Paullus Scipio - 11-04-2007, 02:30 AM
Cost of Silvershields - by Paullus Scipio - 11-04-2007, 05:47 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by hoplite14gr - 11-04-2007, 04:27 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Hypaspist - 11-04-2007, 04:59 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Hypaspist - 11-04-2007, 05:42 PM
Thickness of silver facing - by Paullus Scipio - 11-04-2007, 08:09 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 11-04-2007, 10:02 PM
Silvershields - by Paullus Scipio - 11-04-2007, 10:35 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Paralus - 11-05-2007, 02:44 AM
Silver shields - by Paullus Scipio - 11-05-2007, 04:21 AM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by hoplite14gr - 11-05-2007, 12:25 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Hypaspist - 11-05-2007, 06:22 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by geala - 11-05-2007, 07:57 PM
Thickness of metal facings - by Paullus Scipio - 11-05-2007, 09:03 PM
Helmet thickness - by Paullus Scipio - 11-05-2007, 09:30 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Hypaspist - 11-05-2007, 10:11 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Hypaspist - 11-05-2007, 10:12 PM
Bronze composition - by Paullus Scipio - 11-05-2007, 10:40 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Hypaspist - 11-05-2007, 10:48 PM
Boeotian helmets - by Paullus Scipio - 11-05-2007, 11:56 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Hypaspist - 11-06-2007, 04:32 PM
Silver Shields - by Paullus Scipio - 11-06-2007, 08:58 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by PMBardunias - 11-06-2007, 09:11 PM
Re: Macedonian Silver Shields - by Mythos_Ruler - 11-19-2007, 09:19 AM

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