02-06-2004, 11:50 AM
Robert, Antoninus,<br>
Remains of four shoes are deposited at the Leiden Museum<br>
There are a pair of fairly closed shoes and two isolated right shoes, seemingly of a bigger size, and belonging to the open 'campagus' tipe. One of the last one had the spur attached when it was recovered.<br>
Smolenaars' frenetic searches for the missing cheek-piece undoubtedly disturbed everything. He was not interested on wooden, textiles or leather (fortunately, a good deal of leather and some textiles could be saved) and we'll neve know how much of them were lost forever. He was more interested on metal and perhaps he recovered most metallic items (however, where is the other spur?) Notwithstanding, we can be pretty sure that he wouldn't have passed over the missing cheek-piece. Carol thinks that he simply destroyed it during his first encounter but, IMHO Smolenaars would have recovered the surviving fragments, knowing that they represented some extra gulden for him!<br>
What do you mean when you mention the bag, Robert? The only bag is that intended for the transport of the helmet and when on the first letter sent to the Museum it is mentioned that Smolenaars has stripped the helmet from his leather lining, maybe what is mentioning is the bag (I think that those helmets only had leather edgings, the inner lining was probably made of felt)<br>
Finally, only wooden, leather, copper-alloy, silver or golden components would have survived inside De Peel moor of a sword and its scabbard, i.e. the scabbard and its chape. The scabbard slider could have perfectly been made of bone or ivory. Robert has exposed it very clearly: WE'LL NEVER KNOW FOR SURE.<br>
Anyway, I look forward to read Carol's paper... if it is ever published!<br>
<br>
Aitor <p></p><i></i>
Remains of four shoes are deposited at the Leiden Museum<br>
There are a pair of fairly closed shoes and two isolated right shoes, seemingly of a bigger size, and belonging to the open 'campagus' tipe. One of the last one had the spur attached when it was recovered.<br>
Smolenaars' frenetic searches for the missing cheek-piece undoubtedly disturbed everything. He was not interested on wooden, textiles or leather (fortunately, a good deal of leather and some textiles could be saved) and we'll neve know how much of them were lost forever. He was more interested on metal and perhaps he recovered most metallic items (however, where is the other spur?) Notwithstanding, we can be pretty sure that he wouldn't have passed over the missing cheek-piece. Carol thinks that he simply destroyed it during his first encounter but, IMHO Smolenaars would have recovered the surviving fragments, knowing that they represented some extra gulden for him!<br>
What do you mean when you mention the bag, Robert? The only bag is that intended for the transport of the helmet and when on the first letter sent to the Museum it is mentioned that Smolenaars has stripped the helmet from his leather lining, maybe what is mentioning is the bag (I think that those helmets only had leather edgings, the inner lining was probably made of felt)<br>
Finally, only wooden, leather, copper-alloy, silver or golden components would have survived inside De Peel moor of a sword and its scabbard, i.e. the scabbard and its chape. The scabbard slider could have perfectly been made of bone or ivory. Robert has exposed it very clearly: WE'LL NEVER KNOW FOR SURE.<br>
Anyway, I look forward to read Carol's paper... if it is ever published!<br>
<br>
Aitor <p></p><i></i>
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