08-02-2007, 09:31 PM
...good point, David ! Epaminondas and Pelopidas certainly put an end to Sparta's predominance in Greece "the hard way", as Stefanos says.
Which makes this debate over more esoteric factors redundant....... D lol: :wink:
Which makes this debate over more esoteric factors redundant....... D lol: :wink:
"dulce et decorum est pro patria mori " - Horace
(It is a sweet and proper thing to die for ones country)
"No son-of-a-bitch ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country" - George C Scott as General George S. Patton
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(It is a sweet and proper thing to die for ones country)
"No son-of-a-bitch ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country" - George C Scott as General George S. Patton
Paul McDonnell-Staff