Music of Ancient Rome and Greece

[Susanna]

I think this chanting is a living tradition, its our modern ear who puts music into a cultural area ;-) )

You are educated with certain kinds of music automatically.
For that I envy people from Africa or Arabia, most of the time they are good in dancing a rythm.

[Sergey Lenkov]

I heard the CD's, but they sing in Greek, I was hoping Latin..

Gioi! hock: Since when would you be disappointed when you hear Greek, not Latin? :twisted:

It is not that, I forgot that early christian was not Gregorian chant.

But early Christian Chant like that, even if chanting in Latin, sound too greek.

I like Lating in gregorian chants
PS: I like both languages though

I'm only a music lover but Gregorian chants are not from Roman epoch - they are Carolingian chants. There's CD by Sequentia "Chant Wars" - Benjamin Bagby traces different approaches to performing of chants in Carolingian France. So - I think it's hard to find a person who likes ancient music and don't like Gregorian chants - but why desinform yourself - listening to authentic pieces (like it or not) - you are closer to understanding of the culture of that particular epoch even if they sound too Greek for you.
By the way early Christian Hymn to Holy Trinity (2-3 c. A.D.) is presented on CDs of Ancient Greek Music by Atrium Musicae De Madrid, Ensemble De Organographia and Annie Belis and Kerylos Ensemble. All 3 versions are differs from each other but all of them sounds very beautiful.

[Arthes]

Greetings,
I just came across this video.....the song of Seikilos played on a 2000 year old lyre...a reproduction, I assume.
It's played rather hesitantly and flat in places...but it sounds rather good...and very familiar...?
[url:q2ke2sks]http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1280941983[/url]
regards
Arthes

[Susanna]

Please look therefore my post above, this form of a lyre is not 2.000 years old, its quiet modern.

[Sergey Lenkov]

Hello!
Today is raining (!!!) in Moscow (there is the snow? Global warming ), and it is not the best day in my life.
I'm listened to "Symphonia Panica".
The record gave me a dope of optimism.

[Ioannis]

The International Study Group on Music Archaeology

[url:2yyfzxlr]http://www.musicarchaeology.org/index.php[/url]

Their next conference is scheduled to take place in Berlin in 2008.

[Susanna]

Thank you, I am part of the group ;-) )
But during the last conference I gave birth to my son... :wink:

@Ioannis, Archaeological Institute of America...do you know
Dr. J.C. Franklin?

[Ioannis]

Suzanna,

I'm afraid not.

[Susanna]

He has been working at: http://www.ascsa.edu.gr/ for some time and is a reasearcher of ancient Greek Music.

[hoplite14gr]

Bronze Age Lyra circa 1300 B.C. Made from Ivory.
Enjoy!

[Susanna]

Thank you very much, I did not know that lyra...
Have you got further informations about it?
Size, pic of the back?

Looks like the symbol of an ox-cult, were also the lyra form comes from. I guess the thinnie on the left side schould be a plektrum?
Where were the pegs? (on the right one?) and the tailpiece?
Also I do not think it is hollow...so the sound would be very thin...seomthing for cult? :wink:

[hoplite14gr]

They did not gave details on the exibit label.
Probably you are right though.
Such a precious item must had been kept in the Temple "sanctun sancti" and used only in special ocassions.
Kind regards

[Sergey Lenkov]

Beautiful, Stefanos! Thank you...
Where it was founded?

Susanna, by the way, check out private messeges.

[hoplite14gr]

Comes from Argolide prefcture.
That means somewhere between Mycanae, Tyrins area.
Kind regards

[Ioannis]

More Mycenaean evidence: The Lyre Player fresco from Pylos.

[url:2q3b5mbz]http://www.hartzler.org/cc307/mycenaean/images/60.jpg[/url]