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"Barbarian" military equipment studies
#16
They do merovingian as well, don't they?
[Image: 120px-Septimani_seniores_shield_pattern.svg.png] [Image: Estalada.gif]
Ivan Perelló
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#17
Indeed. But later rather than 5th c.
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#18
That rather spiffing lamellar helmet ... what date would you put on it historically ?
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#19
Quote:That rather spiffing lamellar helmet ... what date would you put on it historically ?

Around the 6th-7th century I think... Frankish.
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#20
Quote:That rather spiffing lamellar helmet
Which one? Can you post the picture here?
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#21
[Image: ulfhednar.jpg][Image: ulfhednar2.jpg]
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Ivan Perelló
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#22
I have tried and failed .... its the one with the bulbous top which is made up from numerous lamels insted of segments.

I believe it was shown in the Late Roman Soldier Osprey Warrior title.
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#23
Ivan,
That one is said to be Avar.
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#24
Where can one find pikkys of the original ?
Conal Moran

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#25
The helmet was found in Germany, at Niederstotzingen, Grave 12.
My Osprey Germanic Warrior book says it's an Allamanic 6th century helmet... but osprey books can fail too. :roll:
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Ivan Perelló
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#26
Since it was found in an Alamannic grave, I suppose that would account for the Osprey quote. But the technique of lamellar helmets was not Alamannic. I'll look it up, it is shown in several of my books.
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#27
It is an impressive helmet anyway! Yeah, it looks kinda eastern...
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Ivan Perelló
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#28
The brow piece has Longobard parallels, a famous one known as the Agilulf piece. The guuards on both sides of the king also wear this helmet!
[Image: agilul1.gif]
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#29
Ok, I've found the real type: Ponto-Caucasian, meaning the north and east of the Black Sea:
[Image: casquesponticocaucasien1nj.jpg]
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#30
OK, here are the color images I promised:
[Image: Avar1.jpg]
[Image: Avar2.jpg]
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