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Bone balteus parts
#1
Salvete,

I was wondering how common these would have been. Are bone pugio frogs known? I know there are quite a few 1st century AD bone buckles are known.

Can anyone suggest a good source for scale drawings of bone buckles and other belt components dated to the first century AD?

Valete,
Jef
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#2
The Griffith and Grew article on the pre-Flavian military belt has bone buckles but AFAIK, no bone frogs :?
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#3
I saw a reconstruction by Avatianus, I don't know what he based them on... The discs appear to be bone, the rest metal?

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#4
As you say there are several bone buckles, but I've not seen any frogs.

I think you may have trouble here, as any that are found may be confused with buttons?

Here is an image of a button found at Hadrian's wall...with a bit of imagination it could be the end of a frog.

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#5
You want the Vindonissa catalog!

Unz, Christoph and Deschler-Erb, Eckhard. Katalog der Militaria aus Vindonissa. 1997, ISBN 3-907549-04-X

The text is all in German, but the line drawings are well worth it. (And it's pretty easy to figure out the German words for iron, bronze, tinned, thickness, etc.) It has about a page full of bone buckles, though I don't recall offhand if there are any bone pugio frogs or not. I remember very long ago seeing what appeared to be several bone apron terminals in the British Museum, and maybe some apron studs, too (though they could have been something else entirely).

Vale,

Matthew
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#6
I have the diagrams from that book somewhere, but I can't find them Smile Better start looking for the again. They are the answer to everything it seems 8)
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#7
My frog it's no based in any particular find. But a bone disc with a central hollow is a very often find, so why not?
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#8
I say go ahead, Jef.

At any rate, it will really look different and very, very cool!:wink:

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