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In Swedish history the medieval period is considered to start around 1050.
Before that it was the iron age. And that was split up into
pre year one : pre-roman iron age.
1 - 200 roman iron age
201 - 400 late roman iron age
401 -600 Folkvandringstid (peoples wandering age? Silly translation, but i cannot find any better at the moment)
601 - 800 Vendel Age
801 - 1050 Wiking age
and by the way, my ancestors were some of those chrusaders who ravaged Livonia! (please don´t hurt me Martin...
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Oh worry not - sadly the Swedish chrusaders were not very lucky. Our "muistne vabadusvõitlus" or "ancient fight for freedom" started in 1208. , when the Fratres Militiae Christi started to attack Estonia systematically. The Swedes, as far as I know, came here only one time (1220) and following events took place: they land in Läänemaa (rough translation: West County), they inhabit Lihula fortress, a garrison is left here and some of the men go back. That is, what the locals and our islanders (the most "viking" people here) have been waiting for. As soon as Swedish sails are gone, black sails from the western islands appear. Lihula fortress is captured and the Sweds killed. And as far as I know, they came no more. Sadly that didn't make any difference, as we were overrun by other conquerors.
p.s. but about our earlyer "contacts" with Sweden... we happened to kill one of their king - the Yngling saga tells a tale of terrible Estonians, who killed king Yngvar, who is still buried somewhere on the west coast of Estonia.
Huh... it's nice we get along nowadays and don't have to kill each other.
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Quote:Folkvandringstid (peoples wandering age? Silly translation, but i cannot find any better at the moment)
Migration Period would be the closest translation. Of course, in some countries (such as the UK), this word is also fast becoming a no-no...
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Actually quite funny to see how close the languages are related to each other (Roman languages (French, Italian, Spanish, Romanian, Portugese, ...), Germanic languages (English, Dutch, German, Danish, Swedish, ...)), yet we can hardly understand each other when we speak our native language.
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Years ago I re-enacted 19th C. American pioneers, including a 1856 handcart company.
That was fun, we re-enacted the martin handcart company's disastrous trip (without the death and frostbite of course)
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Speaking of ancestors...
Quote:and by the way, my ancestors were some of those chrusaders who ravaged Livonia! (please don´t hurt me Martin...
We finns are quite a mixed race. I have swedish & austrian blood from my mothers side. I just recently read about a genetic research of the europeans. The most distant relatives to us in europe are Irish, and the nearest are Dutch, which is quite surprising!
The newest theory about the origins of the finns is not based on linquistics anymore. It seems that we finno-ugric people are the first wave of the light complexion race to follow the diminishing ice barrier. Of course we are quite close to the swedish people, but they have adopted a germanic language ("Linqua Franca", a linquistic term meaning a dominant language adopted by a group of people despite it`s genetic origin) and that is due to our more isolated position here in the upper north...
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aren't Finns related to Hungarians?
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Quote:aren't Finns related to Hungarians?
Their languages are (Finno-Ugrian group if I recall correctly), but languages and people aren't the same of course.
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Quote:aren't Finns related to Hungarians?
Finnish language is related to hungarian language, we are genetically not closely related...
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Quote:Oh worry not - sadly the Swedish chrusaders were not very lucky. Our "muistne vabadusvõitlus" or "ancient fight for freedom" started in 1208. , when the Fratres Militiae Christi started to attack Estonia systematically. The Swedes, as far as I know, came here only one time (1220) and following events took place: they land in Läänemaa (rough translation: West County), they inhabit Lihula fortress, a garrison is left here and some of the men go back. That is, what the locals and our islanders (the most "viking" people here) have been waiting for. As soon as Swedish sails are gone, black sails from the western islands appear. Lihula fortress is captured and the Sweds killed. And as far as I know, they came no more. Sadly that didn't make any difference, as we were overrun by other conquerors.
p.s. but about our earlyer "contacts" with Sweden... we happened to kill one of their king - the Yngling saga tells a tale of terrible Estonians, who killed king Yngvar, who is still buried somewhere on the west coast of Estonia.
Huh... it's nice we get along nowadays and don't have to kill each other.
Eeh..!
I was refering to twelfth century Rehbinders, not Swedes. We came from Westfalen with the Swords Knights. Next time you are drinking Saku beer, check the small print .
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Oh, silly me. :oops:
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Quote:Oh, silly me. :oops:
How could you have known? I was sloppy...
By the way; a question to any American civil war buff; Is there a site which lists confederate unit commanders? Its a rumor in my family that a Rehbinder commanded a confederate regiment...
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