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Iphikratides
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Can anyone tell me where I can find some information about Iphikratides, and his reforms to the Peltals and Hoplites (and anything else he might have done)????

I know little bit about what he did, but there isn't much on the Web about him and what he did.




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#2
hello??????? :?:
Sergio Garcia a.k.a NeoSpartan
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#3
I think you mean Iphikrates

Take a look here:
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/luke/ueda-sarson ... ates1.html
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#4
As Ioannis suggested that is a good place to start.
If you want more info on on Greek footware and boots check the thread in this section.

Kind regards
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THANKS FELLAS!!!!
Sergio Garcia a.k.a NeoSpartan
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#6
Check John Warry's book, Warfare in the Classical World, 1981.
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Luke's article is the best you will see on the web. Probably the most comprehensive biography of Iphicrates is in Pritchett's "The Greek State at War" Part 2. The best part of two chapters in this book is devoted to Iphicrates. There is extensive discussion of the Iphicratid peltast in pp94-97 and 412-414 J E Lendon, Soldiers & Ghosts . There will also be further notes on this subject in my new book.

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Quote:There will also be further notes on this subject in my new book.

What is the title and when is it out?

Do you trace Iphicratids back to the long-speared Thracian peltasts as Best did if I recall?
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Hello
Here is a depiction of the Iphicrates's reforms.
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Yes, I think it's reasonable that Iphicrates fought against Thracians with longer spears and so got his troops to do the same. The colour illustration is of course on the front page of "Slingshot" and to me looks like a copy of the reconstruction in p87 "Warfare in the Classical World" (even has the same shield design). The interesting thing is that the boots are different - why do you think Iphikratid boots were identical to Thracian boots? Would not the open laced boots used in Warry's illustration be more likely?

The working title for the book is "The Bravest Nation of All" but I think that will change as although similar comments were made about the Thracians, that exact phrase referred to the Bastarnae. It will be published sometime after June by Pen and Sword Books.
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Quote:that exact phrase referred to the Bastarnae.

Chris,

Do you have any good references for the bastarnae? Being at the nexus of multiple ethnies they have always facinated me. Has there been a good modern examination of them?
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Hi,sorry, as they were Germanic or perhaps Celtic, not Thracian, I have not studied the Bastarnae much. I'm sure to find something useful when reading about the Dacians - I'll let you know if I do. One of my books on the Dacians mentions the Bastarnae only once, when they defeated the Romans in alliance with the Getae and coastal cities in 61 BC. Seems to be quite a good article in Wikipedia about them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastarnae but nothing really specific. The main source for the Wikipedia article seems to be other encycopaedias and Malcolm Todd, The Early Germans, Blackwell Publishing, 2004, 2nd edition. A quick web search didn't find much, although I did find this: "Who is some thoughtless Bastarnae eating my organic strawberries? "
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