English translation of "pontes longi"
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English translation of "pontes longi"
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12-06-2006, 07:04 PM
Several ancient authors (Tacitus, Pliny, Paterculus) refer to pontes longi, built by Roman engineers in the peat areas of Lower Germany. Although the word means "long bridges", they are in fact roads made of wood. A very short one can be seen on the photo below. What is the English word?
![[Image: bridge.JPG]](http://www.livius.org/a/1/germania/bridge.JPG)
12-06-2006, 07:13 PM
Ave Jona,
togher or trackway? Usually built in bogs and areas where the ground isn't very solid.
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Heiko (Cornelius Quintus) Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari? 
12-06-2006, 07:26 PM
The US version I think is a plank road.
12-06-2006, 07:35 PM
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12-06-2006, 08:04 PM
(whistle) ... Sweet Rome Alabama... :roll:
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Heiko (Cornelius Quintus) Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
12-06-2006, 08:08 PM
It could make sense for pontes longi to be corduroy roads too- logs, not planks on swampy ground- they're a lot more durable for military travel
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12-06-2006, 08:09 PM
Quote:(whistle) ... Sweet Rome Alabama... :roll: Damn- can't give people negative laudes anymore :wink: :lol:
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12-06-2006, 09:09 PM
Was there not a mention of a legion or two being harassed on a raised roadway through swampy ground during Germanicus campaigns after the Varian disaster? I got the impression that it would be raised wooden walkways in parts that there was no semi solid ground for a log, or cordoroy roadway!
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12-06-2006, 09:38 PM
Quote:Cornelius Quintus:21cm8dhu Wrote:(whistle) ... Sweet Rome Alabama... :roll: Ave Matt, no, but you can fine a time penalty concerning delivery of a certain seg :wink: :lol:
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Heiko (Cornelius Quintus) Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
12-06-2006, 09:49 PM
Quote:Was there not a mention of a legion or two being harassed on a raised roadway through swampy ground during Germanicus campaigns after the Varian disaster? I got the impression that it would be raised wooden walkways in parts that there was no semi solid ground for a log, or cordoroy roadway! Ave Gaius, right here: http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic.php?t=12576 But a wooden togher or plankway wouldn't have saved them in that very situation. The wadden sea is no location for building such a path. And if they were caught by a storm tide flowing into the main land, they also had been carried away by the water without holding their position on the planks.
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Heiko (Cornelius Quintus) Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
12-06-2006, 10:21 PM
Quote:Was there not a mention of a legion or two being harassed on a raised roadway through swampy ground during Germanicus campaigns after the Varian disaster?Yep: Tacitus, Annals, 1.63ff. Or just read this addition to my website.
12-07-2006, 11:44 AM
Well I was thinking of the account Iread in Stephen Dando-Collins account of the fourteenth, "Nero's Killing Machine", which recounts the disaster on the coast, which I agree a roadway would not have saved them from the events there, but also on the far side of the Rhine, when the legions had seperated, and were returning to base!
Thanks for the additional posts! I did read, a translation of tacitus last year, which was interesting!
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12-07-2006, 10:41 PM
The photo looks like what I have always known as a trackway, ie: a roadway of logs or planks raised above the surrounding swampland to provide a firm walkway.
The photo appears to be of a bridge over a depression in the road. Crispvs
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12-08-2006, 12:05 AM
I agree with you description Crispus, but will go further and say it looks like a wooden bridge, over a streambed!
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12-08-2006, 12:45 AM
Quote:The photo appears to be of a bridge over a depression in the road.No, it's a modern reconstruction of a pons longus, but indeed a very, very short one. A pons brevis. :wink: |
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