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MDF · 09-19-2011, 07:28 PM

Hi,
These are some pictures of my first attempt to harness phalerae in lost wax bronze ... I still have to test and improve various details to improve it, but I think is the right way.

What do you think?

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jvrjenivs · 09-19-2011, 07:35 PM

As I already told you be email, your work again is brilliant. Can't wait till I will have the prototype in my hand for close-up view. From the pictures I think it's among the best reproductions I've seen so far. Of course there is still a long way (and a lot of work) ahead to get the complete set of horse gear finished.

Vindex · 09-19-2011, 10:26 PM

Very impressive!

Can't wait to see the full set :wink:

Titus Marius Secundus · 09-19-2011, 11:18 PM

mwahahahahah absolutely amazing! :twisted: :twisted:

LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS · 09-20-2011, 02:26 PM

Oh! It's very nice!

For the decorations, how are made? acid? and the black substance what'is? Niello? will you add silver coating to the pieces?

Gaius Julius Caesar · 09-20-2011, 02:42 PM

Looks very efficient and professional!
I look forward to seeing more! :grin:

MDF · 09-20-2011, 07:07 PM

Quote:Oh! It's very nice!

For the decorations, how are made? acid? and the black substance what'is? Niello? will you add silver coating to the pieces?

Thanks guys!

for the decorations I used black epoxy, is very strong ... especially when you have to regrind :evil:
I made the carving with a small drill to dig the channel, then filled it with epoxy and dry when I grind up to the level of bronze.

But I repeat that this is just an experiment because I want to experiment with other techniques may be.
Currently i'm absolute not very happy with the decorations and if this project will go far I want to do better.

We still do not know how much time is needed for this project but I Think it would be a very long and now I'm just experimenting with what technique to use.
This is a good method, but rather tricky.
However, the carving must be very deep otherwise little epoxy and a few small areas remain transparent, as you can see in these photos of the first attempt, especially in small leaves.

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LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS · 09-20-2011, 07:44 PM

Marco,

Probably was easier to do the decorations in the wax, not in the bronze. So, you can do it deepeer and in a easy way with a dremel bit or even with a pointed knife, etc..

MDF · 09-20-2011, 07:57 PM

Hi Cesar,
Yes, I have considered this hypothesis, but the phalera needs cleaning after the cast.
If I made the decoration before in the wax, when I regrind the phalera smooth the edges of the designs inevitably become rounded and when the epoxy fill with irregular ... and I definitely do not want because I want the decoration at the same level of the bronze as in the original and not a colored trench...hope my english is understandable!