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L’armée romaine sous le Bas-Empire†- taira1180 - 05-07-2007
Well, i have finish to read “L’armée romaine sous le Bas-Empireâ€
Re: L’armée romaine sous le Bas-Empire†- Robert Vermaat - 05-07-2007
Thanks for the review Fabiano.
Re: L’armée romaine sous le Bas-Empire†- Paulus Claudius Damianus - 05-09-2007
Yes, I'm absolutly agree with you taira1180. Yann Le Bohec is specialist to early Empire not the late Empire and wee are feeling this fact in his entire study.
Another mistake exemple: If you see and read the battle of Turin drawning you can see that the battle description is completly false.
the soldiers illustrations are a lot of mistake too and is the study there are some strange opinion...
Re: L’armée romaine sous le Bas-Empire†- Jona Lendering - 05-09-2007
Can anyone suggest a better book? I have read Twilight of Empire, but there must be more.
Re: L’armée romaine sous le Bas-Empire†- Paulus Claudius Damianus - 05-09-2007
oh in other part, there are very good thing in this book! It is not bad at all, just some non accurate or stange explanation or intellectual conceptions...
Re: L’armée romaine sous le Bas-Empire†- Praefectusclassis - 05-09-2007
Opinions on Richardot's La Fin de l'armée Romaine?
Re: L’armée romaine sous le Bas-Empire†- Paulus Claudius Damianus - 05-10-2007
Hello!
my opinion? Good, some old conception. maybe I'm Hard but I have never read a "perfect" book about late roman army. The Richardot is correct but the Le Bohec is more accurate cause based on more modern studies.
My most disappointed reading is the chapter on late roman tactics in "Soldier in ghost" The famous "shield wall theory"... really bad to me.
Re: L’armée romaine sous le Bas-Empire†- Robert Vermaat - 05-11-2007
Quote:My most disappointed reading is the chapter on late roman tactics in "Soldier in ghost" The famous "shield wall theory"... really bad to me.
Explain, please? I know your theories about the Late Roman front line are not always the same as mine, so I'm interested what he wrote about that shield wall?
Re: L’armée romaine sous le Bas-Empire†- Paulus Claudius Damianus - 05-11-2007
Yes, the sources use by J.E. Lendon to his intellectual construction are just based on the Ammianus Marcellinus Strasbourg battle description and the mention:
"like an umbreachable wall"
and illustrated by the third century Aurelius Cervianus bronze roundel and the Dura Europos synagogue "roman army" Exodus fresquo.
False conception on false interpretation... The Ammianus mention is just an litterary analogie like Vegetius mention about the roman army "like a wall"...
To the illustrations; the head and foot position show a very profil view and not a front view (never overlap him) to the Bronze rounded and idem to the Dura "roman army" The head and foot position show profil view maybe an army in march...
A little bit light to a shield wall theory!
Re: L’armée romaine sous le Bas-Empire†- Robert Vermaat - 05-12-2007
Quote: False conception on false interpretation... The Ammianus mention is just an litterary analogie like Vegetius mention about the roman army "like a wall"...
Yes, I agree, Ammianus is often literal. Although Late Roman infantry could be 'immovable', I would not interpret Strasbourg as such a dense formation...
Quote:To the illustrations; the head and foot position show a very profil view and not a front view (never overlap him) to the Bronze rounded and idem to the Dura "roman army" The head and foot position show profil view maybe an army in march...Can you show the illustration here?
A little bit light to a shield wall theory!