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Roman or celtic attack ramp? - Treveri Gaul - 04-21-2007
Hello.
Help me please. In the photos the Vallus. All new information interrested me.
Thanks. :wink:
Re: Roman or celtic attack ramp? - Spiridonov Alexander - 04-21-2007
Do you have the high qulity photo? It is too bad for looking
Re: Roman or celtic attack ramp? - D B Campbell - 04-21-2007
Looks like one of the fort-construction scenes from the Marcus column.
Is it?
Re: Roman or celtic attack ramp? - L C Cinna - 04-21-2007
Sorry could you please explain a bit what you want to know? I didn't get your question.
You show a picture of Romans from Traian's column making earthworks. And what about celts?
sorry I'm a bit confused. :?
Re: Roman or celtic attack ramp? - Treveri Gaul - 04-21-2007
Hello.
This photo is better.
http://www.mediterranees.net/civilisati ... allus.html
I dont know the Vallus called Marcus column. My familyan name was write Old Plinius in Naturalis History in 70 BC. Vallus this is Treverian harvesting machine. After 180 years Vallus defend or attack tactics. Why? This problem interrested me.
Re: Roman or celtic attack ramp? - D B Campbell - 04-21-2007
Quote:Les légionnaires romains construisent un camp. Colonne de Marc-Aurèle.Yup. That's what I thought.
Quote:Vallus this is Treverian harvesting machine.Latin vallus, like Greek charax, means a palisade (stake).
imho The illustration is poorly chosen, as it shows general construction work (probably of a fort), rather than the specific construction of a palisade.
Re: Roman or celtic attack ramp? - Nantonos - 04-21-2007
Quote:Hello.
This photo is better.
http://www.mediterranees.net/civilisati ... allus.html
I dont know the Vallus called Marcus column. My familyan name was write Old Plinius in Naturalis History in 70 BC. Vallus this is Treverian harvesting machine. After 180 years Vallus defend or attack tactics. Why? This problem interrested me.
A harvesting machine and a palisade both have wooden spikes on them, which is probably the reason for their sharing a name. The harvesting machine is what is being referred to here:
Quote:Grande fourche de bois en forme de V, munie de dents, et placée en avant d'un chariot (vehiculum), que les Gaulois employaient à moissonner. Un seul boeuf, attelé à un double brancard (amites), poussait devant lui l'appareil à travers le champ de blé, et, à mesure qu'il avançait, les épis étaient pris entre les branches de la fourche, arrachés à leur tige et précipités dans le chariot (Plin. H.N. XVIII, 72 ; cf. Pallad. VII, 2; 2).
I know that stone carvings exist, illustrating this early 'combine harvester' machine, I will see what I can dig out. From memory there is one from Arlon in Belgium. It looks like a box, with two wheels, spikes at the front, and its pushed rather than pulled by the horse, ass, or ox.
Re: Roman or celtic attack ramp? - Nantonos - 04-21-2007
There is an article on the vallus here, including a couple of bas reliefs
http://www.gnrtr.com/tendencies/en/t08.html
Re: Roman or celtic attack ramp? - Robert Vermaat - 04-21-2007
Hi Nantonos/Chris,
Please add your real name to your signature. It's a forum rule.
Re: Roman or celtic attack ramp? - Treveri Gaul - 04-21-2007
Thanks gentlemens. 1,5 year ago I examine the possible origin of my name. I wrote a studie this theme. I know, Virton Buzenol, La Malagne. I gotta be honest. I know what is the connecting link. Maybe alone?
Re: Roman or celtic attack ramp? - Nantonos - 04-21-2007
Quote:Hi Nantonos/Chris,Sorry, new here. I had previously added it to my profile; its now in the sig as well, but not showing up on older posts.
Please add your real name to your signature. It's a forum rule.
Re: Roman or celtic attack ramp? - Robert Vermaat - 04-21-2007
No problem, thanks.