tablet weave pteruges - Printable Version

tablet weave pteruges - Printable Version

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tablet weave pteruges - John M McDermott - 03-13-2007

Here is a system of pteruges and subarmalis inspired by T. Clark and others:

[Image: subarmalis3.jpg]

I started with doeskin backing as seen here:

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Re: tablet weave pteruges - John M McDermott - 03-14-2007

Next, I added 2 inch wide tablet weave of red and blue yarn:

[Image: DSC09483.jpg]

I sewed the tablet weave in 14 1/2 inch lengths to the doeskin:

[Image: DSC09484.jpg]

and; added braiding on the ends and along the seams:

[Image: DSC09486.jpg]

Then they are attached to a subarmalis of layers of hemp (linen would work just as good.)

Re: tablet weave pteruges - John M McDermott - 03-14-2007

Here I am at the Houston Museum of Natural Sciences Roman Exhibit wearing it under my segmentata:

[Image: museum2-3.jpg]

Incidentally, the strips are double layered on the subarmalis.

Re: tablet weave pteruges - Magnus - 03-14-2007

Very nice John! I like the colours...reminds me of that coloured statue of Augustus.

I am also working on my pteryges based on Travis's site. I'll have some pics up in the next few weeks.

Re: tablet weave pteruges - Theodosius the Great - 03-17-2007

Very impressive, John.

I've never seen a reconstruction that so closely resembles the surface texture that we see on pteruges from Imperial statuary. I wish I could get my hands on some tablet weave but I hear it's expernsive to make.

Anyway, the only constructive criticism I can think of is that, IMHO, the pteruges should be made thicker by adding a layer of, say, wool. That should stiffen them out a bit and offer better protection. Also, adding another row of pteruges would help cover gaps ; again, this would offer more protection against enemy weapons, I believe. I'm just trying to think of ways to enhance an already great recreation.

Thanks for sharing your reconstruction methods, John. I think I've learned something.

Laudes to you !

~ Theo

Re: tablet weave pteruges - aitor iriarte - 03-18-2007

Good work John, laus for you! Big Grin

Which is the source for the tablet-woven bands?

Aitor

Re: tablet weave pteruges - John M McDermott - 03-19-2007

They are quite thick. I have two rows, one on top of the other. A third row would present problems attaching them to the subarmalis because of the thickness. I agree the gaps present a problem. As soon as I can, I am going to add one more set and re-attach them so they overlap slightly. I believe that will solve the gap problem.

Judith at Ars Romana made the tablet weave.

Re: tablet weave pteruges - aitor iriarte - 03-19-2007

Thanks John! Big Grin

Was it very expensive? 8)
I don't think that pterugae rows overlapped at all. Judging from surviving sculptures, up to six (three short and three long) layers were just superimposed.
[Image: pterugae.jpg]

Aitor

Re: tablet weave pteruges - Magnus - 03-19-2007

I don't know about that Aitor, I agree some sculptures show the rows directly behind each other, yet others show overlap, as well as pteryges all over the place (from Travis's site [url:2ljedxcz]http://astro.temple.edu/~tlclark/lorica/musculata2.htm[/url]):

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Re: tablet weave pteruges - aitor iriarte - 03-19-2007

I agree about the upper one Matt (really strange pterugae Confused

hock: ),
but I think that on the two lower statues, they just are superimposed and it's the movement what creates the illusion of them being staggered (at least IMHO :wink: )

Aitor

Re: tablet weave pteruges - Magnus - 03-19-2007

Could be. I'd think that lower ranked officers who were on the front lines may have needed the overlap though, for better protection?

And yeah, that top pic is indeed wierd. 8)

Re: tablet weave pteruges - John M McDermott - 03-19-2007

Yes, it was expensive, both in terms of cost (the tablet weaving) and my time to assemble all the components.

I was talking about only a slight overlap, perhaps one stitch. Half of the front in my picture is overlapped in this way, which is the half without the gaps.

I think as you went up into the rank structure, the layers increased. The effect was not unlike petticoats in 19th c. fashion.

Re: tablet weave pteruges - Magnus - 03-20-2007

I agree. Especially if the multiple layers were right over top of each other.

Re: tablet weave pteruges - GaiusAquiliusBritannicus - 03-20-2007

Hmmmm....my wife does tablet weaving.

Big Grin

Thanks for the great idea John!

Cheers!

Britannicus

Re: tablet weave pteruges - Theodosius the Great - 03-20-2007

I have two rowsof long waist pteruges (72) and they're staggered. But even I get gapsas I move about. So, I believe there must be some allowance for it to happen - it's just a question of how much. I'm dubious about the realism of the statue fragment Aitor posted.

~Theo