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Julian and the invasion of Persia - Mithras - 01-23-2007
Does anyone know where I can go (besides here of course!) to find a modern and lucid account of Julian's eastern campaign? Ammianus Marcellinus is very good, but I wondered if there was a modern historial assessment of the war that traced the expedition's route. All the Julian biographies I find all seem to detail his religious life.
:roll:
Any ideas?
Re: Julian and the invasion of Persia - Jona Lendering - 01-24-2007
I was impressed by the discussion in Henlon's Soldiers and Ghosts.
Julian & His Persian Campaign - Jon Eaton - 01-24-2007
There is an excellent chapter on Julian as a military commander in [i]'In the Name of Rome: The Men who won the Roman Empire' by A. Goldsworthy. Julian seems to be neglected as a military commander with most attention focusing upon his religious beliefs.
Re: Julian and the invasion of Persia - Alexandr K - 01-24-2007
Hi,
I've come across these MA theses:
Ammianus Marcellinus and Procopius of Caesarea: The Eastern Campaigns of Julian and Justinian, 4th and 6th Centuries
Ammianus Marcellinus as a Guide to the Strategies of Julians Gallic Campaign, 356-361
I haven't read them, but perhaps they can be useful for you.
Greetings
Alexandr
Re: Julian and the invasion of Persia - Mithras - 01-24-2007
Ooh, ooh! Online theses! Excellent. I'll check out the other book recommendations, too. Thanks!
Quote:Hi,
I've come across these MA theses:
Greetings
Alexandr
Re: Julian and the invasion of Persia - Robert Vermaat - 01-24-2007
Quote:I've come across these MA thesesThanks Alexandr, a good tip! I've cleaned up the link a bit for you. :wink:
Re: Julian and the invasion of Persia - Alexandr K - 01-24-2007
Thanks Robert, I wondered how to make it work properly. Now I know I should have linked it directly to the pdf files.
BTW, I've found those works here. There are other interesting theses (not only) about the Roman army, just search :wink:
Greetings
Alexandr
Re: Julian and the invasion of Persia - Mithras - 01-24-2007
Mmm, just found:
Theodosius and the Goths: The Limits of Roman Power
Re: Julian and the invasion of Persia - Robert Vermaat - 01-24-2007
MMhhh....
The End of Roman Spain - Michael Kulikowski
Cultural identity in Roman Africa : the La Ghorfa stelae - Moore, Jennifer
Historical writing in Visigothic Spain from c. 468 to the Arab invasion of 711 - Jordan, Elizabeth Alexandra
Attitudes to astrology in early Christianity - Hegedus, Timothy Michael Joseph
Re: Julian and the invasion of Persia - Mithras - 01-24-2007
Amazing what you can find Robert ...
Re: Julian and the invasion of Persia - Robert Vermaat - 01-24-2007
A Reconsideration of the Iconography of the Triumphal Reliefs of Shapur I
Imperial Representation Under Diocletian and the Tetrarchy
Marriage and alliance in the Merovingian Kingdoms, 481-639
Re: Julian and the invasion of Persia - Alexandr K - 01-25-2007
Well, my favourite one
The Praetorian Guard in the Political and Social Life of Julio-Claudian Rome
And then
The Regionalization of Equestrians and Centurions in the Roman Army
The Emperor, the Army and the Coinage
The Glorious Life of Agricola: A Critical Analysis of the Literary Form and Political Content of Tacitus' Agricola
Greetings
Alexandr
Re: Julian and the invasion of Persia - Mithras - 01-31-2007
On this subject again (and quite crucial for my current project), has there been any attempt to create a possible list of Eastern legions that participated in the campaign? Reading Ammianus I find the Joviani, the Herculiani, the Jovii and the Victorres ... are there any experts in deciephering the Notitia who are willing to take a guess???!!!
Re: Julian and the invasion of Persia - TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 02-01-2007
That intersts me too!
As first view:
I ARMENIACA Claudiopolis (Cappadocia - Armenia II), till 359 AD.
In 363 is with Iulianus in Persia.
LEGIO I PARTHICA
after the fall of Singara come back to Nisibis and reformed is with Iulianus in Persia
La LEGIO III PARTHICA
Apatna, Mesopotamia, is with Iulianus in Persia
From Ammianus' Res Gestae:
Are with Iulianus in Persia:
Iovii and Victores XXIV 4,20,24
Tertiaci XXV 1,7
Zianni XXV 1,19
Vale,
Re: Julian and the invasion of Persia - Mithras - 02-01-2007
What do you think of the major troop movements, Daniele? Obviously much of the limitanei were garrisoning cities in the Eastern provinces (Syria, Osdrohene, Mesopotamia etc) and would most likely wait in place for the expedition to reach their neighbourhood before joing it.
We know that Julian took Western legions with him. The Western Gallic army? All of it? Most of it? And the Eastern field army - I would presume that this bore the bulk of the Persian expedition since it required far less transport and relocation. Add to that the legions praesentalis accompanying the emperor (which Ammianus was presumably part of).
Although I believe the secondary force stood at 30,000 men and the main force stood at a little more than that (guess = 40-50,000 men??). Just on legions at full strength (maybe 1000 men) that adds up to well over 50 legions. Alternatively one could ask "what was left behind?"
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