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The Roman Navy - googler - 11-11-2006 Not the best naval power of the time, but still great! http://forum.stirpes.net/showthread.php?t=9017 Re: The Roman Navy - Robert Vermaat - 11-11-2006 Hi Googler, Thanks for the link but please add your real name to your signature if you want to post here. We have forum rules for this - did you not read them yet? Re: The Roman Navy - googler - 11-11-2006 Oh sorry, I though in doing all the profile things later, but it's all done now. --------------------- Some images of Roman ships http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... legIII.jpg http://www.crystalinks.com/romenavycoin.jpg http://www.crystalinks.com/romaannavy.jpg Enjoy it! Re: The Roman Navy - aitor iriarte - 11-12-2006 Hi Helmut, welcome to the forum. Where does the relief on the middle pic come from What are, in your opinion, the two objects featured on the deck? :? Aitor Re: The Roman Navy - Virilis - 11-12-2006 Quote:What are, in your opinion, the two objects featured on the deck?Could they be ballistas? Tripod legs and covered cylinders for springs on both sides above those? Re: The Roman Navy - aitor iriarte - 11-12-2006 Yes, Jyrki, I was thinking exactly that... The curved legs and the capitula look rather strange, though... :? In any case, I've never seen that relief before! hock: Aitor Re: The Roman Navy - Tarbicus - 11-12-2006 Quote:The curved legsA similar principal to the arch - added strength? Re: The Roman Navy - aitor iriarte - 11-12-2006 Maybe Jim... :? When I've first seen those things, after the first shocking impression, I've started looking for alternative explanations. On the right thing, the curved 'legs' seem to follow into the strange, too open, would-be capitulum... :? Anyway, they would make really weird anchors, on their turn! :roll: Aitor Re: The Roman Navy - Spiridonov Alexander - 11-12-2006 Quote: I've never seen that relief before! hock: I with Ildar discussed these strange images of machines. We came to a conclusion that it is ( Probably ) machines with an iron frame. I think, that it is inswinging arrowshoter machines. http://forum.xlegio.ru/forums/thread-vi ... 335#M75335 http://forum.xlegio.ru/forums/thread-vi ... 218#M80218 Re: The Roman Navy - aitor iriarte - 11-12-2006 Thanks for the links, Alexander! Even if I've obviously been unable to read your posts, I've downloaded the gravestone's pics. It seems to be the funerary stone of a shipwright, as the (whatever do you call it in English! :oops: ) with the plumb-bob indicates... What would have to do a pair of catapults on a warship? lacking any other feature? If the features were iron-framed ballistae, why are they lacking the omnipresent and tell-tale upper arch? :? And, again, where does that stone come from? 8) Aitor Re: The Roman Navy - Spiridonov Alexander - 11-12-2006 Quote:And, again, where does that stone come from? 8) This stone from Museum fur antike Schiffart/ Other questions will be answered later because I know English very bad. Re: The Roman Navy - aitor iriarte - 11-12-2006 Many thanks again, Alexander! Indeed your English is much better than my Russian! If you need help, just tell Ildar to re-surface and help us! :wink: Aitor Re: The Roman Navy - Ildar - 11-12-2006 Quote:just tell Ildar to re-surface and help us! :lol: Unfortunately, Aitor, I know only that this relief carving is exposed in Museum für antike Schiffahrt, Mainz. Re: The Roman Navy - Flavius Promotus - 11-13-2006 The slab was found directly at Mainz/Moguntiacum and is thought to be part of the grave stela of a shipwright. The inscription is missing, but German scholars date it into the middle of the 1st century AD (I vaguely remember someone writing about 45 AD as a terminus ante quem, but would have to look it up). You were right, the two strange items on deck are usually identified as artillery pieces Re: The Roman Navy - aitor iriarte - 11-13-2006 Hi Ildar and thanks, Florian! Anyway, I'd like to discard every other possibilities before clinging to the one I'd like most: Artillery pieces 8) Has somebody tried to see them as paired anchors? :? Aitor |