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Army of King Attalus I - Johnny Shumate - 03-25-2006 Attalus I, king of Pergamon, was a strong ally of Rome and defeated the Gauls near Pergamon. What did his heavy infantry and cavalry look like? Macedonian style phalanx? Did some of his heavy infantry carry the popular oval Celtic/Roman thureos type shield? The time period would be around 200 BC. Any info would be helpful. Thanks, Johnny Re: Army of King Attalus I - Ramesses II - 03-25-2006 Since it's the territory of Seleucus's empire, I assume many Greek warriors looked like the Alexander-type phalanx. Re: Army of King Attalus I - hoplite14gr - 03-25-2006 Initial period was combined arms based on phalanx with sarisae as the army of Alexander. The Galatians were initialy incorported in their native warband style. Just beore the Roman anexation we have stelae depivting catfract cavalry and some infantry had converted to the roman style of fighting. Kind regards re - Johnny Shumate - 03-25-2006 Stefanos, Being that the Romans and Attalus fought together in many battles, would it then be safe to say that some of Attalus' troops would have looked similar to the Romans. What about some standard looking Hoplites(Large hoplon shield and thrusting spear. Thanks, Johnny Re: Army of King Attalus I - hoplite14gr - 03-25-2006 The pikemen were typical hellenistic -sarissa small shield. but converted infantry possibly carried thyreos, heavy javelines and might even wear chainmail (Thorakitae). Some Thyreophoroi peltasts possibly carried spears in the manner of earlier Ifikratidian peltasts. Round shielded hoplites are not mentioned at that period. Kind regards re - Johnny Shumate - 03-25-2006 Stefanos, Do you have the Osprey book, "The Thracians"? The black and white illustrations (I did those!!) show the battle scene from the Kazanluk tomb frieze. Maybe the Peltast of Attalus looked similar? Thanks for the great information!! Johnny Re: Army of King Attalus I - hoplite14gr - 03-25-2006 Was that you John? I have seen them. Exellent staff! 50% of the thyreos info come from the tomp. The other 50% from Alexandrine frescoes of the Ptolemaic Era. Choose your pick. Kind regards Re: Army of King Attalus I - Susanne - 03-25-2006 Johnny, I have the book in front of me now... how long have you been doing historical illustrations? re - Johnny Shumate - 03-25-2006 Susanne, I've been illustrating for about 20 years... Have you seen the 2 illustrations..? Johnny Re: Army of King Attalus I - Susanne - 03-25-2006 Yes, they can, like all of your other illustrations, only be described with one word: breathtaking. re - Johnny Shumate - 03-25-2006 Thanks..! Re: re - Spedius - 03-25-2006 Quote:Thanks..! Ave TNarcher, I do apologise for interrupting but feel impelled to ask if you know of a source for any good colour images of the battles of Boudicca? I would like to illustrate the topic "Imperial Governor" with some superb pictures. Any help would be appreciated. Vale M. Spedius Corbulo PS. How did you get on with the Thracian horse archers? re - Johnny Shumate - 03-25-2006 Spedius, I don't know of any sources. I've done a few illustrations of Celts but nothing about the Boudicca revolt. Check a few picture archives and see what they have. Although I'm sure it will come with a price! Thanks, Johnny Re: re - Spedius - 03-26-2006 Quote:Spedius, Ave Johnny, Thank you for your message. I did as you suggested and actually managed to find a few images. They will be appearing in the topic "Imperial Governor" over the next few days. If you have a few moments to spare perhaps you would cast an eye over my efforts and offer up any improvements that you think may help? Vale M. Spedius Corbulo Re: Army of King Attalus I - hoplite14gr - 03-26-2006 Spedius, have a look in the Allies and enemies of Rome thread. Kind regards |