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Victory and defeat Roman soldiers - SAJID - 06-23-2021 Hi to all, How many times got victory and defeat roman soldiers who fight others army? I means ask total war against other army. Please help this topic and thanks in advance. with best regards-Sajid RE: Victory and defeat Roman soldiers - CaesarAugustus - 08-24-2021 Not sure to understand the question... RE: Victory and defeat Roman soldiers - Crispianus - 08-24-2021 (08-24-2021, 05:20 PM)CaesarAugustus Wrote: Not sure to understand the question... What I think Sajid means is "How many times did Roman Armies win or Lose"... no idea but I guess a lot either way... my impression is that Romans lost a lot maybe more then they won... but were excellent at recovery, but thats just an impression... RE: Victory and defeat Roman soldiers - SAJID - 08-26-2021 Hi to all, Yes, dear Crispianus you are right "How many times did Roman Armies win or Lose"[url=https://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/member.php?action=profile&uid=3479][/url] Please tell total number and thanks to understand my question. with best regards-Sajid RE: Victory and defeat Roman soldiers - Hanny - 08-26-2021 Roughly a 70% win rate, you might do better to look at periods, say Republic or Empire as there is some difference, or even Punic wars etc. find a book on the period, like this one with 170 odd battles and some good data as well as some best guesses, and calculate to your hearts content. Spartan military achievemnts in the 4th century. Wins 494 Sepiea 25 5000 4000 6000 480 Thermopolea 1 100 2700 1300 8000 480 Thermopolea 2 100 2800 1250 8000 480 Thermopolea 3 150 2650 550 7000 480 Thermopolea 4 50 2600 300 8000 479 Platea Moleis 250 6500 2500 22000 470 Tegea 100 5000 400 5000 464 Dipaea 40 2000 300 4000 457 Tanagra 1000 11500 2500 14000 423 Lynsestis 20 3000 400 1750 418 Mantinea 400 9100 1100 8000 403 Porus 50 1500 100 1000 403 Halea Marsh 100 7500 180 3000 Totals: Spartan/Allies strength 53850 Spartan/Allies losses 2385 Openents Strength 99750 losses 16300 Winning: Generaly outnumbered c2:1 number of spartans to effect a kill 3 number of Openents to effect a kill 42 Odd of staying alive while winning; spartan 1 in 23 openents 1 in 6 Comments, in winning the spartan side is four times likly to survive, and 14 times more effeiecent at inflicting a casualty. losses 480 Thermopolea5 950 1200 1000 7000 465 Stynlekares 300 300 30 600 461 Oeneo 150 2000 100 4000 425 Spaceteria 128 420 0 1000 424 Cytherea 100 1000 60 2000 424 Cotyra 20 300 10 1000 412 Panormus 80 500 20 800 411 Athens1 30 600 0 300 411 Cyzicus 15 750 50 300 409 Ta Kerata 470 2200 50 1000 407 Garium 250 1250 50 2500 Totals: Spartan/Allies strength 6190 losses 2493 Openents 20500 losses 1640 Losing: Generaly outnumbered c3:1 number of spartans to effect a kill 4 number of Openents to effect a kill 8 Odd of staying alive while Loseing: spartan 1 in 2.5 openents 1 in 12 Comments, when loseing the spartan side is 5 times more likly to survive and twice as likly to inflict a casualty. Combined totals Spartan/Allies strength 60140 losses 4978 Openents 120500 losses 17940 Spartan/Allies: 3 spartans to effect a kill, odd of staying alive in doing so: 1 in 12 All comers: 24 to effect a kill, odds of odd of staying alive in doing so: 1 in 6. Comment, overal the spartan side is 8 times more likly to inflict a casualty, and twice as likly to survive. Spartan v Theban in 4th and 3rd century. 418 Mantinea 400 9100 1100 8000 394 Nemea 1100 23000 2800 24000 394 2nd Corona 350 15000 600 20000 Spartan/Allies strength 47100 losses 1850 Openents 52000 losses 4500 Spartan/Allies: 10 spartans to effect a kill, odd of staying alive in doing so: 1 in 25 Thebans: 28 to effect a kill, odds of odd of staying alive in doing so: 1 in 12. Comment at even odds, a spartan was 3 times as likly to inflict a casualty and twice as likly to survive. 4th century Data from https://www.amazon.com/Land-Battles-5th-Century-Greece-ebook/dp/B005LINLB6/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=land+battles+5th+century&qid=1629990429&sr=8-1 3rd century data from https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lost-Battles-R ... 0826430155 RE: Victory and defeat Roman soldiers - CaesarAugustus - 08-26-2021 "A bit" difficult to give any reply. We don't have enough figures, and the one we have are a bit misaligned. And, sometime there is a misalignment between roman sources and enemy sources. RE: Victory and defeat Roman soldiers - Hanny - 09-16-2021 (06-23-2021, 08:34 AM)SAJID Wrote: Hi to all,Free download for 667 battles, pages 141 onward list the battles in order with win or lose, so you can calculate by century or war etc. https://b-ok.cc/book/1175282/4b2c70?id=1175282&secret=4b2c70 RE: Victory and defeat Roman soldiers - SAJID - 09-17-2021 Hello to all, Thanks "Hanny" very interesting Link you share.[url=https://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/member.php?action=profile&uid=4545][/url] with best regards- Sajid |