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What is this small (unconquered?) white area north east of Italy? - Theodore Arthur Rabbit - 08-07-2019

I'm watching a Netflix production on the Roman Empire. They show this map of all the lands under Roman rule at the time of Tiberius (just prior to Caligula). My question is (and it's driving me crazy) What is the small white area between Italy and France that seems to be independent of Rome? 
  See what I am refering to here:     https://youtu.be/b53uBV1MPSQ

Your help with this burning question is greatly appreciated.


RE: What is this small (unconquered?) white area north east of Italy? - Robert Vermaat - 08-07-2019

West of Italy.
I think it's a gap in Netflix coverage. Smile
Other than that I would not know - there would not be such an area at that moment in Roman history.


RE: What is this small (unconquered?) white area north east of Italy? - Nathan Ross - 08-07-2019

Sounds like the Cottian Alps, a Roman client kingdom ruled by King Cottius and his son after him.

It wasn't officially absorbed into the empire until the son's death, under the reign of Nero. It later became the Roman province of Alpes Cottiae.


RE: What is this small (unconquered?) white area north east of Italy? - Theodore Arthur Rabbit - 08-07-2019

(08-07-2019, 04:55 PM)Robert Vermaat Wrote: West of Italy.
I think it's a gap in Netflix coverage. Smile
Other than that I would not know - there would not be such an area at that moment in Roman history.
Thank you, Robert Vermaat
"...a gap in Netflix coverage." That's funny! Smile But seriously; did you see the map I'm talking about? On Youtube at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b53uBV1MPSQ

I'm serious OCD and will not be at ease until this mystery is solved. 



RE: What is this small (unconquered?) white area north east of Italy? - Theodore Arthur Rabbit - 08-07-2019

 It wasn't officially absorbed into the empire until the son's death, under the reign of Nero. It later became the Roman province of Alpes Cottiae.

Ooo. Yes, that looks geographically correct! Thank you, Nathan Ross!


RE: What is this small (unconquered?) white area north east of Italy? - Robert Vermaat - 08-07-2019

(08-07-2019, 05:03 PM)Nathan Ross Wrote: Sounds like the Cottian Alps, a Roman client kingdom ruled by King Cottius and his son after him.
It wasn't officially absorbed into the empire until the son's death, under the reign of Nero. It later became the Roman province of Alpes Cottiae.


In that case the map has some issues in the Danube reagion too I think - at least I was not aware that such large parts East of the river had been added to the Empire by the time of Caligula. The tip of Mauretania is also not incorporated into Roman control - that happened in AD44 I think?


RE: What is this small (unconquered?) white area north east of Italy? - Theodore Arthur Rabbit - 08-07-2019

Coolness! Thank you, Robert Vermaat.


RE: What is this small (unconquered?) white area north east of Italy? - CaesarAugustus - 10-31-2019

That map is simply wrong. It is including in the empire the Agri Decumates, that were taken after Vespasianus. Territories beyond the danube that were at most to be considered as Client Kingdoms. And the Morocco area that we can see was already under the empire, while in the map is white.


RE: What is this small (unconquered?) white area north east of Italy? - Americus - 11-12-2019

At first, I might guess that it was the small village of indomitable Gauls who held out against the Roman invaders - the home to Asterix and Obelix. However, the village of which I speak, as recorded in history by Goscinny and Uderzo, was in what is now Belgium.