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Roman Tools; help needed - Robert - 07-23-2017
Salvete!
Getting straight to the point, I am asking all of you to check if you have any info on Roman tools, basicly consisting of drawing/photo with scale and provenance. Perhaps you may have access to a PDF which you could share or link to. I have the Manning catalogue of the British Museum and the St Germain finds book. German and French language is not a problem.
Why do I ask? Well, I am trying to put together an overview of Roman tools ordered by craft, with as many different documented tools as I can find. Totally inspired by a display at Xanten museum showing a leatherworker's shop.
So, please mail me the info at r.p.wimmersAThotmail.com (replace AT with @) and I will be most gratefull.
RE: Roman Tools; help needed - Crispianus - 07-23-2017
(07-23-2017, 12:24 PM)Robert Wrote: Salvete!
Getting straight to the point, I am asking all of you to check if you have any info on Roman tools, basicly consisting of drawing/photo with scale and provenance. Perhaps you may have access to a PDF which you could share or link to. I have the Manning catalogue of the British Museum and the St Germain finds book. German and French language is not a problem.
Why do I ask? Well, I am trying to put together an overview of Roman tools ordered by craft, with as many different documented tools as I can find. Totally inspired by a display at Xanten museum showing a leatherworker's shop.
So, please mail me the info at r.p.wimmersAThotmail.com (replace AT with @) and I will be most gratefull.
Theres a thread on Roman tool cats here, the french ones just posted are pretty good:
http://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/thread-24904-post-345283.html#pid345283
RE: Roman Tools; help needed - Robert - 07-24-2017
Great, thanks! Was not aware that thread was still alive
. But please, guys, do send me more stuff, as I want to get a comprehensive overview of the different tools used per craft. As far as I can tell, this is not yet available anywhere, so I thought to try my hand at this.
RE: Roman Tools; help needed - Renatus - 07-24-2017
(07-23-2017, 12:24 PM)Robert Wrote: I have the Manning catalogue of the British Museum
Do you mean the Museum of Antiquities, Newcastle upon Tyne?
RE: Roman Tools; help needed - Robert - 07-24-2017
Manning, W. H. 1985. Catalogue of the Romano-British iron tools, fittings and weapons in the British Museum. London
Is there one for the Museum of Antiquities, Newcastle upon Tyne?? Ahhhh, there is and it is available here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2IR1lF9QRZiTkxBb1BhNGJ1a3c/view Thank you for the tip!!
RE: Roman Tools; help needed - Renatus - 07-24-2017
You're welcome. I didn't know about the other one.
RE: Roman Tools; help needed - Crispvs - 07-25-2017
OT I know, but Manning 1985 is also where you can find Scott's pugio typology.
Crispvs
RE: Roman Tools; help needed - Crispianus - 07-26-2017
(07-24-2017, 08:56 AM)Robert Wrote: Great, thanks! Was not aware that thread was still alive
Unfortunatly large catalogues of tools dont seem to be that common, with many tools being shown as small finds in excavation reports or specific articles on individual tools and to that end you might try a site called Artefacts which can turn up some very interesting results, though it may give better results if french is used? :
roman shoe anvil ?
And will also give you many references to follow up, in this case:
"G. Jacobi, Werkzeug und Gerät aus dem Oppidum von Manching (Die Ausgr. in Manching, 5),Wiesbaden, 1974."
Sometimes links to specific articles for download are included...
Welcome page : http://artefacts.mom.fr/fr/home.php
More Roman Shoe Anvils
"W. Gaitzsch, Eiserne römische Werkzeuge. Studien zur römischen Werkzeugkunde in Italien und den nördlichen Provinzen des Imperium Romanum (BAR S-78), Oxford 1980, 2 vol."
" M. Pietsch , Die römischen Eisenwerkzeuge von Saalburg, Feldberg und Zugmantel, Saalburg Jahrbuch 39, 1983, p.5-132."
You may have missed this one:
Das Römerkastell Saalburg bei Homburg vor der Höhe, Jacobi 1897 vol2 plates tools
Both Vols:
Saalburg Jacobi 1897
General Museum catalogues and search engines:
British Museum search Collections
Hunterian Museum search Collections
National museum of Scotland Search collections
Catalogue of the collection of London antiquities in the Guildhall Museum
RE: Roman Tools; help needed - Robert Vermaat - 07-27-2017
(07-23-2017, 12:24 PM)Robert Wrote: So, please mail me the info at r.p.wimmersAThotmail.com (replace AT with @) and I will be most gratefull.
Almost forgot about this one!
Pflaum, Veronika (2007): The supposed Late Roman hoard of tools and a steelyard from Vodice near Kalce, in: Arheološki vestnik vol. 58. http://av.zrc-sazu.si/pdf/58/AV_58_Pflaum.pdf
RE: Roman Tools; help needed - Robert - 07-27-2017
Thanks guys!!
RE: Roman Tools; help needed - Crispianus - 07-28-2017
Artefacts also works well by site names:
Saalburg on Artefacts
Haltern on Artefacts
Xanten on Artefacts
A new craze is sweeping the Empire:
YoYos, JoJos :-)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Yo-yo_player_Antikensammlung_Berlin_F2549.jpg
RE: Roman Tools; help needed - Crispianus - 08-01-2017
Measuring Things:
A Two Foot Ruler/Measure
A Bone Folding One Foot Ruler/Measure
A six inch Ruler/Scriber?
Bronze One Foot folding Ruler from London (One Roman Foot 29.5cm, marked basically and not very accurately in fingers 16=1 foot and thumbs 12=1 Foot) and a smaller simpler bone measure :
RE: Roman Tools; help needed - brennivs - tony drake - 08-01-2017
Thanks Ivor to those links
not just the tools but a nice ring pommel in amongst them and I do like the folding rule chears.Regards Brennivs
RE: Roman Tools; help needed - Crispianus - 08-02-2017
(08-01-2017, 08:11 PM)brennivs - tony drake Wrote: Thanks Ivor to those links
Regards Brennivs
Your Welcome its always interesting to find new items, I was aware the Bronze or possible Brass hinged Ruler as it is in the London Museum catalogue No3 "London in Roman Times" 1946 pg83-84, the decription mentions that its still Yellow and unpatinated and though I've never seen the original it leads me to believe its more like Brass....
On the divisions the upper side is 16 fingers Digiti, the lower 4 hands Palmi (4 fingers wide 1/4 of a roman foot) and the near side in 12 thumbs Uncia the opposing side has no markings, apparantly this represents the Greek and Latin measurement systems though the markings are not accuratly made.. length 29.5cm from the Walbrook, Princes Street near the Bank of England.
"The London Museum" and "The Guidhall Museum" became "The Museum of London" in the 1970s, and some of the items were spread about to other Museums including the BM, a quick search there turned up the ruler here:
One Foot Rule from London BM
This Artical From A Bone Folding One Foot Ruler/Measure lists 12 examples and includes an almost identical bronze ruler from France, unfortunatly it wont let me add a link in directly:
Feugère 1983c: M. Feugère, Les mesures pliantes du pied romain, en bronze et en os (à propos d'un exemplaire conservé à Roanne). Cah. Arch. Loire 3, 1983, 39-43, 2 fig.
The bone folding rules though incomplete are interesting and could be recontructed I think on the same lines....