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Archer hoplites? - Condottiero Magno - 05-06-2017

On pp 24-25 of Ancient Warfare VIII #2, there's a reconstruction of an armored toxarchos based on the Nereid Monument. If not confined to officers, how common were armored archers with aspides? If required to engage in close combat, how fast could an aspis be unslung from the back, assuming an attendant in tow with spear? IIRC, Archaic Age hoplites could carry a javelin or two, in addition to a spear, so could a bow armed one be an Ionian version?

Dual armed warriors in groups, mounted or on foot, with attendants carrying extra weapons was a feature of samurai warfare, so what were the chances of such appearing in Ionian warfare?


RE: Archer hoplites? - Creon01 - 05-06-2017

We are discussing this depiction correct?

[Image: 34445028316_d4a64431d2.jpg]


RE: Archer hoplites? - Creon01 - 05-08-2017

There is also this unique depiction, note the quiver.

[Image: 34479632446_af44001c0a.jpg]


RE: Archer hoplites? - Condottiero Magno - 05-08-2017

(05-06-2017, 01:23 PM)Creon01 Wrote: We are discussing this depiction correct?

[Image: 34445028316_d4a64431d2.jpg]

That's the one, clearer and larger than in the magazine...

(05-08-2017, 12:39 AM)Creon01 Wrote: There is also this unique depiction, note the quiver.

[Image: 34479632446_af44001c0a.jpg]

Sure that's a quiver and not a scabbard for a kopis?


RE: Archer hoplites? - Creon01 - 05-08-2017

Definitely a quiver. It's a common "departure scene" with a young lady holding a phiale and perhaps the father of the two warriors on the far right.