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Pompeii Frescoes - Which One\'s Hold Clues? - Mithras - 01-22-2005
Hi!<br>
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At last, the holiday I've been waiting for! I'm off to Pompeii in six weeks and I've ordered a couple of guide books to read in advance to plan out what I want to see. But do you guys have any info on Pompeii wall-paintings that are useful for a re-enactor to take a look at. Clothing and trades especially, as well as anything military orientated.... <p><strong>Paul Elliott/<em>Caius Fortunatus</em></strong><br>
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3rd Century Auxiliary (<em>Cohors Quinta Gallorum</em>)<br>
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4th Century Legionnary (<em>Comitatus</em>)<br>
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www.geocities.com/zozergames/interactive.html</p><i></i>
Re: Pompeii Frescoes - Which One\'s Hold Clues? - Anonymous - 01-22-2005
Not sure about those, i suspect there will little clear evidence for anything military frescoe wise based on what i've seen published already, (just the generic pseudo appearance, which we see everywhere)<br>
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its the small finds which would interest me, as these are almost never published in the standard glot of "coffee table" books on pompeii, and i know from the few books which have brushed on the subject that there are more then a few pieces of military kit knocking about in museums out there, if you could get some digital photos of any museum exhibits out there you could make yourself very popular around here..... (unless you are already, in which case ignore that last remark) <p></p><i></i>
Re: Pompeii Frescoes - Which One\'s Hold Clues? - L C Cinna - 01-23-2005
Get yourself a book about the Pompeii grafitti, if you haven't read them already. Preferably a newer one ("uncensored"). Doesn't have too much to do with the army except for a few writings from soldiers, but defenitely worth a read before you got there. Might slightly change the view on ancient Romans, lol.<br>
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Those people in Pompeii are quite interesting when you take a look behind the monuments, they are pretty......human I'd say. <p></p><i></i>
Re: Pompeii Frescoes - Which One\'s Hold Clues? - richsc - 01-23-2005
There is a book out there on the graffitti of Pompeii..let me see if I can find the reference. <p>Legio XX <br>
Caupona Asellinae</p><i></i>
Re: Pompeii Frescoes - Which One\'s Hold Clues? - Daniel S Peterson - 01-23-2005
The Tavern scene with the three men in hitched up red tunics, and what may be scarves, gaming with a man in an unhitch white clavied tunic is probably evidence of Roman soldiers. Colored tunics in a civilian context in 1st century Roman art are quite scarce, and here, three men together with red tunics, and hitched up in military fashion to boot, is quite remarkable.<br>
I don't recall if this fresco is now in Naples, or left in situ at Pompeii.<br>
Dan <p></p><i></i>
Re: Pompeii Frescoes - Which One\'s Hold Clues? - Mithras - 01-23-2005
Thanks Dan, that's what I had in mind. I'll see if I can find out where it is located. I think a trip to the Naples Museum is in order if the family are up for it (hey, I think they're used to it by now!). Must see if there's a Naples Museum website. Off to Google. <p><strong>Paul Elliott/<em>Caius Fortunatus</em></strong><br>
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3rd Century Auxiliary (<em>Cohors Quinta Gallorum</em>)<br>
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4th Century Legionnary (<em>Comitatus</em>)<br>
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www.geocities.com/zozergames/interactive.html</p><i></i>
Re: Pompeii Frescoes - Which One\'s Hold Clues? - Praefectusclassis - 01-23-2005
There is a Naples museum with a LOT of stuff. Trouble is though (like all Italian museums it seems) departments are sometimes inexplicably closed. I was there last June and over half was shut down. <p>Greets<br>
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Jasper</p><i></i>
Re: Pompeii Frescoes - Which One\'s Hold Clues? - Dan Diffendale - 01-24-2005
The Naples museum is very very good, but often closed... However, if you fax them a week ahead of time with what you want to see and why you want to see it they will sometimes agree... <p></p><i></i>
Re: Pompeii Frescoes - Which One\'s Hold Clues? - Anonymous - 01-24-2005
Have a look at the Aeneas fresco with the Aeneas figure being treated for a wound- whilst behind him are two soldiers , one with a medieval-looking "arming cap" on. I've only seen it in reproductions....I'm envious!<br>
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<img src="http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/encyclopaedia/hutchinson/images/aa326412.jpg" style="border:0;"/><br>
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Re: Pompeii Frescoes - Which One\'s Hold Clues? - Dan Diffendale - 01-26-2005
If you look in the upper left-hand corner of this wall...<br>
icon.stoa.org/gallery/allison/ph24_06<br>
Room i, small breach in north wall in Casa del Sacello Iliaco <p></p><i></i>
Re: Pompeii Frescoes - Which One\'s Hold Clues? - Uwe Bahr - 01-26-2005
Danno,<br>
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if You want to take a glimpse on the fresco until Mithras has made a better photo (especially referring to the colors):<br>
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<img src="http://people.freenet.de/u-bahr/praet.jpg" style="border:0;"/><br>
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Greets - Uwe <p></p><i></i>