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Yuezhi from Khaltchayan, north Bactria, 50BC-50AD - Druzhina - 10-23-2014 Quote:At Khaltchayan, in central Asia, a building datable to c. 50 BC-AD 50 - perhaps a reception hall - was built. It contained a six-column portico, a central hall entered (like a 'broad-room' shrine) through its long side, and a ('centralised'?) square inner chamber with two central columns, enclosed by corridors, but with roof edge ornaments (antefixes) and terracotta roof tiles of Greek type Drawings of Yuezhi (Yue-Chi, later Kushan) costume & soldiers from the frieze of Khaltchayan (Khaltchayana or Khatchayan) Reception Hall, 50 BC-50 AD, north Bactria (southern Uzbekistan) Quote:Traces of wall-painting including a head in the vestibule of the Khaltchayan 'reception hall' (c. 50 BC-AD 50) show a continuation of the style seen at Dilberdjin. The main reception chamber in the Khaltchayan hall was decorated with splendid wall reliefs in clay and stucco on a wooden frame ... MIRROR SITE Drawings of Yuezhi (Yue-Chi, later Kushan) costume & soldiers from the frieze of Khaltchayan (Khaltchayana or Khatchayan) Reception Hall, 50 BC-50 AD, north Bactria (southern Uzbekistan) Druzhina Ancient Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers Yuezhi from Khaltchayan, north Bactria, 50BC-50AD - Renatus - 10-23-2014 Thirty-odd years ago, when I was researching Roman heavy cavalry and its origins, I borrowed the publication dealing with the sculptures from Khalchayan (G. A. Pugachenkova, Skul'ptura Khalchayana, Moscow, 1971) from the British Library. It was in Russian and I could not read the text but from the illustrations and from those in Valerii P. Nikonorov, The Armies of Bactria, 700 BC - 450 AD, Stockport: Montvert Publications, 1997, figs. 28-31, I have the impression that the frieze survived only in fragments and that a considerable amount of imagination had gone into the creation of the reconstruction drawings. Yuezhi from Khaltchayan, north Bactria, 50BC-50AD - Druzhina - 10-25-2014 Thanks Renatus, I would like to see a photo to judge how much imagination has been used. Druzhina Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers Yuezhi from Khaltchayan, north Bactria, 50BC-50AD - Michael Kerr - 10-25-2014 I don't have photoshop on my tablet so not sure how big this screen grab is from the book "Armies of Bactria" but here is a drawing of the fragments for the heavy horseman from the book. Most of the other fragments are assorted horse gear and saddles. I have just read an old paper CRENELATED MANE AND SCABBARD SLIDE by Otto Maenchen-Helfen where he thinks that the Yueh-chi or Tokharians may have invented the scabbard-slide and passed it on to their various neighbours. So the images although reconstructions are interesting. Regards Michael Kerr [attachment=11027]fragments.jpg[/attachment] Yuezhi from Khaltchayan, north Bactria, 50BC-50AD - Renatus - 10-25-2014 Quote:I would like to see a photo judge how much imagination has been used.As far as I recall, there was not much in the way of photographs of the fragments in the Russian volume. I took photos of the illustrations that interested me and will see if I can find them. In the meantime, Vol. 2 of The Armies of Bactria, which contains the illustrations, can be found here: https://www.scribd.com/doc/24274587/The-Armies-of-Bactria-700-BC-450-AD-volume-2 Yuezhi from Khaltchayan, north Bactria, 50BC-50AD - Druzhina - 10-25-2014 Thanks Michael & Renatus. The painted frieze and other statues from Khaltchayan are in museums in Tashkent according to Iranica online, but it doesn't say which ones. Druzhina Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers Yuezhi from Khaltchayan, north Bactria, 50BC-50AD - emilio - 10-26-2014 Hi, Druzhina hi, all - some clay fragments from Khalchayan ( Tashkent Museum) : http://contrafacts.ru/foto/foto42.php http://consequit.org/illustr/56.jpg https://lib.rus.ec/i/72/152872/i009-001-233666365.jpg http://consequit.org/illustr/49.jpg http://static1.ozone.ru/multimedia/books_ill/c300/1000479234.jpg http://consequit.org/illustr/53.jpg - digital reconstruction : http://fritzvoepel.net/filmography/rekonstruktion/khalchajan/ arrivederci, Emilio [attachment=11056]khalchayan9.jpg[/attachment] Yuezhi from Khaltchayan, north Bactria, 50BC-50AD - Renatus - 10-27-2014 Very interesting. It confirms my view that this is a giant three-dimensional jigsaw puzzle without a picture on the box to help. I was particularly interested in the examples in which fragments were set into outlines of the sculptures of which they were thought to form part. I don't suppose you have been able to find a similar reconstruction of the cataphract. Yuezhi from Khaltchayan, north Bactria, 50BC-50AD - Druzhina - 10-28-2014 Thanks Emilio, The displayed photo looks like it is the man holder the suit of armour in B of the frieze. A lot of imagination was used in the reconstructions. Druzhina Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers Yuezhi from Khaltchayan, north Bactria, 50BC-50AD - Druzhina - 10-30-2014 I have added some pages with these photos: The seated ruler from Khaltchayan The Khaltchayan armour-bearer A Khaltchayan central-asian horse-archer The Khaltchayan Cataphract A head from Khalchayan It is handy to have the cyrilic for Khalchayan: Халчаян Druzhina Ancient Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers Yuezhi from Khaltchayan, north Bactria, 50BC-50AD - emilio - 11-03-2014 Thanks Renatus, Druzhina, all More pictures about "Khalchayan Palace" : yesterday: http://dic.academic.ru/pictures/enc_pictures/141.jpg ...and today: http://www.lookuz.com/ru/place/gorodishche-halchayan arrivederci, Emilio |