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RE: Bronze Petasos - Creon01 - 05-04-2017
(05-04-2017, 11:30 AM)Crispianus Wrote: Nice looking repilca...
Gravefind from Athens dated around 400bc from: Antike Helme RGZM 1988 pg 159-160
And: https://www.academia.edu/5634533/Topographic_Semantics_The_Location_of_the_Athenian_Public_Cemetery_and_Its_Significance_for_the_Nascent_Democracy
Thank you.
If you look above I have included the information you reference as it is an unusual helmet. If there were not an ancient artifact found in situ I would not believe such a helmet was actually produced. In the cultural context of the time it makes sense as the Greeks were using metal helmets that appeared similar to their non-military hats.
(05-03-2017, 11:16 PM)Giannis K. Hoplite Wrote: Joe, I'm very jealous of your petassos helmet! Well done!
The original seems to have perforated edges (confirmed?). Someone had interestingly suggested that it might have had a felt cover on its outsider ao that it looked like an ordinary petasos with a bronze interior. Another possibility is that it had a leather or felt interior. A leather edging in my opinion would disrupt the nice shape of the helmet and add no benefit in such a wide brimmed hat.
Khaire
Giannis
Yes, as usual you are correct and it was a hard decision to leave out the perforated edge from the reproduction. I did not want to wait any longer and the holes can always be added later to match the original.
I too have heard that this helmet could have been covered with felt to conceal that it was a military helmet and/or the holes were to hold a interior liner of some sort. Both are interesting questions.
I've already started using it!
Here I snuck it into a recent "Roman" presentation at a local school.
![[Image: 33528116264_9791321f32.jpg]](https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2891/33528116264_9791321f32.jpg)
RE: Bronze Petasos - Crispianus - 05-05-2017
(05-04-2017, 02:11 PM)Creon01 Wrote:Yes I appreciate that, however its only the reference that I could actually read that gives a date... and the Book "Antike Helme" is still available, where as the other two are unobtanium at least for me, so thought it may be usefull to know this third reference(05-04-2017, 11:30 AM)Crispianus Wrote: Nice looking repilca...
Gravefind from Athens dated around 400bc from: Antike Helme RGZM 1988 pg 159-160
And: https://www.academia.edu/5634533/Topographic_Semantics_The_Location_of_the_Athenian_Public_Cemetery_and_Its_Significance_for_the_Nascent_Democracy
Thank you.
If you look above I have included the information you reference as it is an unusual helmet. If there were not an ancient artifact found in situ I would not believe such a helmet was actually produced. In the cultural context of the time it makes sense as the Greeks were using metal helmets that appeared similar to their non-military hats.
Heres an ABE link to the book, its has 550 pages extensively illustrated mostly with first class drawing and B/W photos highly recommended for any one interested in Ancient Greek, Italian, Roman, Gallic etc etc helmets....
https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=14077736324&searchurl=ds%3D20%26sortby%3D17%26tn%3DAntike%2BHelme
A New copy at a better price:
https://www.antikmakler.de/bv446
RE: Bronze Petasos - Creon01 - 05-05-2017
Thank you Crispianus, I ordered "Antike Helme" from https://www.antikmakler.de/bv446 as it is less expensive and new copy. Although I do not read German I can understand German pictures.
RE: Bronze Petasos - Ektoras - 03-01-2024
(03-22-2014, 07:03 PM)Creon01 Wrote: Pottery Depiction
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Hello Creon. Are the mentioned Indians still offering copies of this petasos?
RE: Bronze Petasos - Creon01 - 04-23-2024
(03-01-2024, 06:38 PM)Ektoras Wrote:(03-22-2014, 07:03 PM)Creon01 Wrote: Pottery Depiction
PetasosHelmetPotteryDepiction.jpg[/attachment]
Hello Creon. Are the mentioned Indians still offering copies of this petasos?
Hello, sorry for the late reply. As of now no Indian maker has provided this particular helmet. The one you see is custom and the maker is now retired.
RE: Bronze Petasos - Ektoras - 04-23-2024
(04-23-2024, 01:33 PM)Creon01 Wrote:Hello, thank you. Your reply was pretty quick, compared to the age of this thread.(03-01-2024, 06:38 PM)Ektoras Wrote:(03-22-2014, 07:03 PM)Creon01 Wrote: Pottery Depiction
PetasosHelmetPotteryDepiction.jpg[/attachment]
Hello Creon. Are the mentioned Indians still offering copies of this petasos?
Hello, sorry for the late reply. As of now no Indian maker has provided this particular helmet. The one you see is custom and the maker is now retired.
I found all your process of researching and recreating this item very interesting, I'm thinking on making a petasos molding wool felt sheets and attaching wings.
I also thought, maybe those holes in the original artifact could have been used to attaching light wings? Since this hat was associated with Hermes..