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More questions about the D from Mainz - Anonymous - 12-16-2003
Did all type D's come without the triangular embossing on the cheek-pieces? Or was this just a matter of taste? Are there any other pictures from a type D (artifact or reconstruction) out there? What are the characteristics (the less obvious) of the D that makes it different from the well known type G?<br>
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All important questions since I am trying to reconstruct a type D and I don't want to chance to create something totally incorrect!<br>
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Thanks for your input.<br>
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Jurgen/Quintilianus <p></p><i></i>
Gallic D, right? - Matthew Amt - 12-16-2003
Ave!<br>
It was the GALLIC type D that we were talking about, right? (If you don't specify Gallic or Italic (or Coolus or Montefortino), confusion will follow!)<br>
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There is only the one sure example known, the remains of which are still in the museum. You still have the link to the photos on Armamentarium, yes? So if you want to make a Gallic type D, that's the one that you should try to copy. If it's got the embossed triangle, your repro should have it. It's a pretty common feature on other Gallic helmets, anyway.<br>
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The basic differences between that and Gallic G are the shape of the eyebrows, the outline of the cheekpieces, the shape and width of the neckguard, and the iron earguards (rather than brass). There will also be subtle differences in the general shape of the bowl, the fittings, etc. If you study photos of the two helmets side-by-side, you'll be able to pick them out.<br>
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Now, someone did send me a photo recently from a museum somewhere in Europe (Germany?), of a helmet which really looked like another Gallic type D. It also looks like brass rather than iron! I'll have to dig it out, but can't remember who sent it to me... Anyone have more details on this piece? (I know, I have to post the photo!)<br>
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Happy armoring! Vale,<br>
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Matthew <p></p><i></i>
The Gallic D - Anonymous - 12-16-2003
Thanks, Matt<br>
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Sorry for the confusion, but I was referring to an earlier tread I put on about the Gallic D from the Armamentarium-website.<br>
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Another question: Is it correct to make the cheek-pieces out of cold rolled plate, raising the details with chisels and cetera working cold?<br>
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Vale,<br>
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Jurgen/Quintilianus <p></p><i></i>
Steel - Matthew Amt - 12-17-2003
Ave, Jurgen!<br>
No problem. Yeah, cold-rolled steel is what most armorers use these days. If you use hot-rolled steel you have to spend more time cleaning up the outside, though the inside will look more correct. Working cold should be fine, though for any dicey bits it's a good idea to anneal the part you're working on. A lot depends on how good you are!<br>
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Vale,<br>
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Matthew <p></p><i></i>
My skills - Anonymous - 12-17-2003
Well, I already threw 3 workpieces in my metal-scrapbin (I experimented with some techniques that weren' t always right). The last one was quite good though, but I made a crucial mistake on the placement of the moon-formed features at the mouth and eyes. I have a feeling the fourth try is gonna be perfect, I just need to work on it with patience... which isn't always easy for me.<br>
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I will probably post a lot more questions before my helmet is finished, but when it is I will shoot some pictures of it and post them (If the result is worth showing!)<br>
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Greetings,<br>
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Jurgen/Quintilianus<br>
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