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Bronze ram from Sicily - Images Restoration - S. Marcer - 05-01-2012
Hello to everybody!
The day 20 of August 2011 was recovered this ram from the sea of Levanzo (one of the Egadi Islands) related to the naval battle of march 241 BC.
The Finds from 1st Punic War in Sicilian sea have already been discussed in RAT http://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat.html?func=view&catid=17&id=303410#303498
Here's a few photos of the ram during and after the restoration (made by the Labs of the Trapani’s Soprintendenza) with some shots of the relief inscription and the nike.
I hope it can be useful
Very Best!
S.M.
Re: Bronze ram from Sicily - Images Restoration - Gaius Julius Caesar - 05-01-2012
Thanks for posting.
This was quite a period for the development of the Roman Naval forces.
Re: Bronze ram from Sicily - Images Restoration - tiberius aemilius naso - 05-01-2012
Thanks a lot, Stefano, really beautiful pictures! What does the inscription mean?
Re: Bronze ram from Sicily - Images Restoration - S. Marcer - 05-01-2012
Ciao Eduardo!
I'am not an epigraphist, but the transliteration could be:
C(aio) Paperio Ti(beri) F(ilius) /
M(arco) Popvlicio L(uci) F(ilius) Q(uaestoria) P(otestate)
Gaius Julius Caesar wrote:
This was quite a period for the development of the Roman Naval forces.
Indeed
, I was thinking about posting it the moment I had these
Re: Bronze ram from Sicily - Images Restoration - Eleatic Guest - 05-03-2012
A few years ago, only one or two ancient rams were known. How many do we have today?
1. Athlit ram
2. Sea of Levanzo (this ram)
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???
Re: Bronze ram from Sicily - Images Restoration - S. Marcer - 05-04-2012
Correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I know only in the Egadi isles 6 rams has been found:
1 – 15 June 2004 (police confiscation)
2 – 26 June 2008
3 – 18 August 2010
4 - 6 September 2010
5 - May 2011
6 - 24 August 2011
And 1 in Acqualadroni near Messina (Sicily) - September 2008
Re: Bronze ram from Sicily - Images Restoration - S. Marcer - 05-04-2012
Speaking on Roman Naval forces, I think it is also useful to remember the bronze wild boar-head “above – ram” found in 1597 in the Genova harbor, today in the Royal Armory of Turin (Piedmont).
Ref. P. Venturoli “Arma virumque cano : le armi preistoriche e classiche dell'Armeria reale di Torino” [Turin] : U. Allemandi, 2002.
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Re: Bronze ram from Sicily - Images Restoration - M. Demetrius - 05-04-2012
Were they held onto the prow with over-sized rivets?
Re: Bronze ram from Sicily - Images Restoration - Ildar - 05-04-2012
Quote:Correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I know only in the Egadi isles 6 rams has been found
7 rams: http://www.rpmnautical.org/ramsgallery.html
Quote:1 – 15 June 2004 (police confiscation)
2 – 26 June 2008
3 – 18 August 2010
4 - 6 September 2010
5 - May 2011
6 - 24 August 2011
1. 2004
2. Catherine D - June 2008
3. Vincenzo T (Punic inscription) - 18 August (discovered) and 6 September (lifted) 2010
4. Claude D (Latin inscription) - May (discovered) and 20 August (lifted) 2011
5. Rachael R - May 2011
6. Cecè P (Latin inscription) - 24 August 2011
7. 17 November 2011 (fishing boat catch): http://it.paperblog.com/sette-rostri-protagonisti-della-battaglia-navale-che-ha-cambiato-il-corso-della-nostra-storia-755008/
Quote:A few years ago, only one or two ancient rams were known. How many do we have today?
1. Athlit ram
2. Sea of Levanzo (this ram)
.
.
.
???
1. Athlit ram
2. Piraeus ram
3. Bremerhaven ram
4. Fitzwilliam ram (προεμβόλιον?), now named "Belgammel ram" (Museum of Libya, Tripoli)
5. Turin ram (προεμβόλιον?)
6. Canellopoulos ram (προεμβόλιον?)
7. Fragment of a ram from Octavian's Campsite Memorial in Nikopolis (Archaeological museum of Ioannina)
8. Messina (Acqualadroni) ram
9. 7 Egadi Islands rams
Re: Bronze ram from Sicily - Images Restoration - MeinPanzer - 05-05-2012
Another new ram featuring an inscription was also confiscated recently around Christmas of last year.
Re: Bronze ram from Sicily - Images Restoration - Eleatic Guest - 05-11-2012
Quote:Another new ram featuring an inscription was also confiscated recently around Christmas of last year.
Any photos of this ram yet? How many rams Ildar listed do feature an inscription?
Re: Bronze ram from Sicily - Images Restoration - philippe - 05-17-2012
The acqualadroni ram was dated by Standford University (CA - Dott. P. Franck) 14C analysis and dated 360- 190 b.C.
Re: Bronze ram from Sicily - Images Restoration - john m roberts - 05-18-2012
Quote:Were they held onto the prow with over-sized rivets?I don't know if there is any evidence, but I would think that breakaway wooden pegs would make more sense. If your ram got stuck, you wouldn't want to be dragged down by a sinking ship. Better to lose the ram.
Re: Bronze ram from Sicily - Images Restoration - Ildar - 07-09-2012
Quote:1. 2004
2. Catherine D - June 2008
3. Vincenzo T (Punic inscription) - 18 August (discovered) and 6 September (lifted) 2010
4. Claude D (Latin inscription) - May (discovered) and 20 August (lifted) 2011
5. Rachael R - May 2011
6. Cecè P (Latin inscription) - 24 August 2011
7. 17 November 2011 (fishing boat catch): http://it.paperblog.com/sette-rostri-protagonisti-della-battaglia-navale-che-ha-cambiato-il-corso-della-nostra-storia-755008/
8. 10-11 June 2012
9. 19 June 2012
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Links:
http://www.regione.sicilia.it/beniculturali/archeologiasottomarina/sez_eventi/archeorete2012_1.htm
http://www.regione.sicilia.it/beniculturali/archeologiasottomarina/news.htm
Re: Bronze ram from Sicily - Images Restoration - jkaler48 - 07-09-2012
The rams three tier construction has me imagining ancient naval architects conducting dry land tests on simulated ship sides with the ram on a beam swung on ropes from a height to find the most effective ram design for breaking ship hulls while still allowing for easy extraction.