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Looking for pictures of pouches - Theron_of _Sikyon - 04-02-2012
Does anyone know of any pictures of small belt pouches or coin purses?
Edward
Re: Looking for pictures of pouches - Giannis K. Hoplite - 04-02-2012
Greek pouches appear to have been deep and drop shaped. I have seen such a pouch in a roman copy of a greek statue in the Vatican museum.
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Khaire
Giannis
Re: Looking for pictures of pouches - Theron_of _Sikyon - 07-10-2012
I built a pouch based on the one in the picture. Put a flat top on it though. I couldent seem to get a scalloped design that I like how it looked. Will try again and see how it turns out.
Edward
Re: Looking for pictures of pouches - Phil Ossiferz Stone - 10-08-2013
Necro-bump: Is there any indication as to how they carried them? How did they attach to the belt? You can't just walk around with a pouch in your hand all day. I've used all my Google-fu on the subject and come up dry.
Re: Looking for pictures of pouches - Flavivs Aetivs - 10-08-2013
Rusty makes small man-purses based on finds at Vindolanda and from the Commachio wreck. They're slung over the shoulder.
Re: Looking for pictures of pouches - M. Demetrius - 10-08-2013
Quote:scalloped design
Could that be just (an artistic rendering of) the gathers that occur when a drawstring is pulled tightly?
Looking for pictures of pouches - agrimensor - 10-09-2013
the barger compascuum pouch
found in a moor.
http://nl.scribd.com/doc/79559766/Bauanleitung-V-2-1-nl02
Re: Looking for pictures of pouches - Phil Ossiferz Stone - 10-09-2013
Quote:Rusty makes small man-purses based on finds at Vindolanda and from the Commachio wreck. They're slung over the shoulder.
Uh... I'm the new kid hovering around the fringes of your tight-knit Internet community. I have no idea who Rusty is. And a search of the 'For Sale' section of the marketplace comes up dry (or the search function is broken.) Gimme a hint...?
Looking for pictures of pouches - agrimensor - 10-10-2013
look at this
http://legvi.tripod.com/armamentarium/
Looking for pictures of pouches - Theron_of _Sikyon - 10-14-2013
I have found that the neck of the pouch is long enough that it can be tucked through the belt and it stays very well. The picture could be depicting the pucker of a pouch but I believe it is a decrative edge my self.
Now for a little rant that I appologise for before hand but it has been bugging me for a long time. Greek does not equal Roman and Roman does not equal Greek. A late Roman pouch is as far wrong as a La Tein pouch. Yes the Romans looked to the Greek culture for a lot of stuff but they still retained an individual culture. I believe that an interpretation of the vase painting is far more authentic than using a Roman pouch as a Greek item.
Edward
Looking for pictures of pouches - Theron_of _Sikyon - 10-14-2013
Here is a picture of the pouch I made. Like I said I will try to do scallops on the next one.
Edward
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53156530@N08/10260177796/
Looking for pictures of pouches - Alanus - 10-14-2013
Quote:the barger compascuum pouch
found in a moor.
http://nl.scribd.com/doc/79559766/Bauanleitung-V-2-1-nl02
My own pouch is similar to the one shown in this link. The draw-string is simply wrapped around my belt and tied off. Hard for anyone to steal it without me kicking him in the groin. :dizzy:
As for credibility or historicity-- a pouch is a pouch is a pouch. :wink:
Looking for pictures of pouches - Phil Ossiferz Stone - 10-14-2013
Quote:Here is a picture of the pouch I made. Like I said I will try to do scallops on the next one.
Edward
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53156530@N08/10260177796/
Very nice (no /sarc).
I still don't understand how it might be carried. Your average Greek's idea of a belt was nothing more than a cord.
Looking for pictures of pouches - Theron_of _Sikyon - 10-14-2013
Pull out your belt, slide the top of the pouch under the belt until the belt is about half way through the belt. Let the top of the pouch fall and let go of the belt.
Another method I have found is when you wear your chiton on one shoulder only the extra cloth makes a pouch area above the belt where you can carry stuff..
But this is all assuming that they carried pouches. ITs a historical novel and I an not sure where he got the notion but with the accuracy of other small points I would like to believe that its based on some historical notion. In H. N. Turtletaub's seafaring books of the Ancient Greeks he talks about them keeping small change in the tobacco pouch of the lower lip.
From the Birds,
EUELPIDES By Zeus! that's what I did myself one day on seeing a kite;
but at the moment I was on my knees, and leaning backwards with mouth
agape, I bolted an obolus and was forced to carry my meal-sack home
empty.
Edward
Re: Looking for pictures of pouches - Flavivs Aetivs - 10-14-2013
Sorry, here are some small images of them, I'm not advertising but these reconstructions are a good examples of Roman bags.
http://legvi.tripod.com/armamentarium/id118.html