+- RomanArmyTalk (https://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat)
+-- Forum: Research Arena (https://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/forumdisplay.php?fid=4)
+--- Forum: Roman Military History & Archaeology (https://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/forumdisplay.php?fid=8)
+--- Thread: The missing scutum (/showthread.php?tid=18902)
Pages:
1
2
The missing scutum - M. Demetrius - 05-27-2011
I was talking to someone on another forum, and said that the Dura Europos scutum had gone missing. Afterwards, I wasn't sure any more if that shield were one and the same with the Fayum scutum. So,
These two shields are different ones, yes?
The D. Europos scutum is lost somewhere. When did that happen? Before WW2?
Re: The missing scutum - Nathan Ross - 05-27-2011
They are different, yes - the Fayum scutum was found in Egypt, the Dura one(s) in Syria. Actually there were quite a number of them found at Dura, although most in a pretty poor state of repair I think.
I don't know about any of them going missing though...
Re: The missing scutum - Forty-One - 05-27-2011
The "Fayum" one went missing for a while, and recently turned up in the Cairo Police museum. The Tower 19 Dura one has always been in the Yale university art gallery (although it is not currently on permanent display).
Re: The missing scutum - M. Demetrius - 05-27-2011
Thanks, men. My old brain just ain't what it used to be, not that it was ever very much....
Re: The missing scutum - A_Volpe - 05-28-2011
The "Tower 19" rectangular scutum that we all know and love from Dura Eurpos is currently on display at Boston College, Boston MA at the McMullen Art Museum. The exhibit "Pathways to Antiquity" will end June 5, 2010.
There is a lovely catalog featuring most of the displayed artifacts that is available, both in the BC Bookstore and online. It has photos of the shield, as well.
From what I know, in 2011 Yale U. will open it's permanent exhibit of D.E. artifacts and finds, although if the shield will be a part of that display I do not yet know.
The caption of the shield at BC states that the shield was discovered in tower 19, but was crushed. It was "reconstructed" with some "modern" reproductions and paint, but as to what level of detail was not mentioned.
Re: The missing scutum - gaiusseptimiuslucianus - 06-06-2011
Gack! The exhibition closed yesterday and I hadn't known it was going on...
ad: I guess I'll have to content myself with the catalog.
Lucianus
Re: The missing scutum - dengland - 06-07-2011
I posted the Dura exhibit a year ago.(little fanfare) The tower 19 shield was part of the just ended exhibit. I've seen pre and post photos of the shield and from what I could glean there was minimal structural repair and only moderate paint touch up. Lisa Brody is the curator and is quite approachable. I understand a permanent exhibit at Yale is planned for 2012.
Re: The missing scutum - Gaius Colletti - 06-08-2011
Would someone mind posting links to pictures of the Dura and Fayum shields, I am having trouble searching for them. Thanks
Re: The missing scutum - M. Demetrius - 06-08-2011
Here's the Dura Europos one. Not a high res picture, but it's what I have right now.
Re: The missing scutum - Alexandr K - 06-08-2011
Hi,
And here is the shield from Fayum.
Kind regards,
Alexandr
Re: The missing scutum - Macedon - 06-09-2011
Beautiful images guys....
Re: The missing scutum - Peroni - 06-09-2011
Not sure if this will appear any larger than David's picture..
![[Image: DuraEuroposScutum-1.jpg]](http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/peronis/DuraEuroposScutum-1.jpg)
Re: The missing scutum - Renatus - 06-09-2011
This is the Dura shield as found.
[attachment=1035]Durashield.jpg[/attachment]
Re: The missing scutum - Gaius Colletti - 06-14-2011
Wow those shields are in amazing shape given they are 2000 years old. What conditions was the in Dura shield exposed to that allowed it survive in such good condition that even the paint remained?
Re: The missing scutum - kranger3 - 06-14-2011
Because of the dry desert conditions of the area. Dura Europos is near the Syrian desert, so a perfect spot to bury wooden artifacts for hundreds of years. As long as you cut oxygen to a minimum (like in a bog), or somehow prevent water from decaying the wood, you can make amazing finds such as these!