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Honorific Cognomina - markhebb - 07-23-2010 Hi All, I'm currently working on my PHD into military loyalty and the Roman Army 235-395 AD. I was looking for some help on the issue of honorific cognomina in the 3rd century. In particular I keep seeing mentions (unreferenced) on the net to III Augusta holding the title Iterum Pia Iterum Vindex from 253 onwards. However I can find no mention of this in Fitz (Hon. titles of roman mil. units) or Le Bohec's exhaustive book on the legion. Is anyone aware of a reference for this honorific title? cheers, Mark Re: Honorific Cognomina - D B Campbell - 07-24-2010 Quote:In particular I keep seeing mentions (unreferenced) on the net to III Augusta holding the title Iterum Pia Iterum Vindex from 253 onwards.I have never noticed this. Dessau does not list this as a possible title for III Augusta. However, I am glad that you raised the subject, as it made me do a little digging. I notice that Ritterling restored CIL VIII 2482 as follows: pro sal(ute) d(ominorum) n(ostrorum) Valeriani et Gallieni ... Augus]t(orum) mil(ites) l[eg(ionis III Augustae II p(iae) v(indicis) re]stitutae e Raet(ia) Gemell(as) regressi ... Here the legion's name is lost in a lacuna in the text, but Ritterling restores it as legio III Augusta iterum pia vindex. I have no idea why he felt confident enough to suggest that particular restoration -- I do not have his section on III Augusta here, which would surely provide the key -- but he was maybe prompted by the fragmentary CIL VIII 2852: C(aius) Cornelius Flo]rentinus >(centurio) leg(ionis) III Aug(ustae) II Pi[ae --] | [--]OIC[--]A tab(ularius) castr(ense) evok(atus) E[--] | [--]E[--]raet vixit a[nn(os) -- Here III Augusta appears to carry the title II Pia (?Vindex), i.e. iterum pia (vindex). I can find no other instance of this. Re: Honorific Cognomina - markhebb - 07-24-2010 Quote:markhebb:2ubu0txy Wrote:In particular I keep seeing mentions (unreferenced) on the net to III Augusta holding the title Iterum Pia Iterum Vindex from 253 onwards.I have never noticed this. Dessau does not list this as a possible title for III Augusta. However, I am glad that you raised the subject, as it made me do a little digging. Thanks for this. Fitz does include this in his work but only in a footnote lists it as 'questionable' - that was my guess where it came from as well. Re: Honorific Cognomina - markhebb - 07-25-2010 While I think of it - this is an interesting phenomenon when we consider the numerical salutations of Pia Fidelis found on the legionary coinage of Gallienus - which interestingly does not include III Augusta |