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Wall at Dion - PMBardunias - 04-21-2010
Does anyone have images of all of the armors at Dion? The best I can find is this:
Re: Wall at Dion - Giannis K. Hoplite - 04-21-2010
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/116/2532 ... 45dc_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scasparz/49959770/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kapatos/41 ... 8/sizes/o/
If you find any more,especially of the tube and yoke ones that are visible,please send them to me too.
Khaire
Giannis
Re: Wall at Dion - PMBardunias - 04-21-2010
Hey Giannis, here:
http://www.travelpod.com/travel-blog-en ... uirass.jpg
You notice that the shields are all aspides? Do you happen to know the date for certain?
Re: Wall at Dion - MeinPanzer - 04-22-2010
I know I have a good quality image of one of the T&Y cuirasses somewhere, but I'll have to try and find it. There are three muscled cuirasses and three T&Y cuirasses on the wall, and according to Demetrios Pantermalis (Minor M. Markle, "A Shield Monument from Veria," in Hesperia 68, 2 (1999): 241), all are "represented as pierced by weapons." He therefore thinks that these "represent armor captured from enemies," and excavations around the wall have shown that it dates to after 200 BC (242).
Re: Wall at Dion - PMBardunias - 04-22-2010
Thanks Ruben, I have Markle's paper, I'll go take a look.
Did you happen to get my PM on citing you for your recent find on the T-Y?
Re: Wall at Dion - MeinPanzer - 04-22-2010
Quote:Thanks Ruben, I have Markle's paper, I'll go take a look.
Did you happen to get my PM on citing you for your recent find on the T-Y?
I knew I'd forgotten something! Sorry, I'd read it before, but it slipped my mind in the end-of-semester blitz...
Re: Wall at Dion - Archelaos - 04-23-2010
Pierced by weapons? I had seen it, and I don't remember any indications of the damages... Stone used is quite poor, so there are a lot of erosion marks, besides T&Y's are very crude. What arguments Pandremalis presents to support this?
Re: Wall at Dion - MeinPanzer - 04-23-2010
Quote:Pierced by weapons? I had seen it, and I don't remember any indications of the damages... Stone used is quite poor, so there are a lot of erosion marks, besides T&Y's are very crude. What arguments Pandremalis presents to support this?
I don't really buy it either; looking at photographs of them, I don't distinguish any such marks which could definitively be said to have been made by a sculptor. Markle just states that Pantermalis told him that they were pierced by weapons without any further discussion.