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Hamilcar Barca founded Barcelona? - Justin of the New Yorkii - 01-20-2010
The Wikipedia page for Hamilcar Barca says "He allegedly founded the city of Barcino (currently named Barcelona) while he was on Hispania."
But isn't Barcelona north of the Ebro River? And wasn't the Ebro the demarcation line between the Roman and Carthaginian interests in Spain?
Every map I have ever seen shows the border of Carthaginian holdings in Spain much farther to the south.
But maybe someone here knows more than I do about Barcelona?
Re: Hamilcar Barca founded Barcelona? - Jona Lendering - 01-20-2010
According to Pomponius Mela, it was in fact founded by the Lacetani (2.90; cf. Pliny the Elder 3.22, Ptolemy Geography 2.6.18). It looks as if someone accepted the sound of Barca in Barcelona as evidence about its founder.
Re: Hamilcar Barca founded Barcelona? - MARCvSVIBIvSMAvRINvS - 01-20-2010
Well its understandable to make such a mistake, since personally i think that the language name of Farsi (Iran) derives from the Parthian language, and not the Persian... however id not dare put that on a Wiki page LOL
Etymology can be fun......
M.VIB.M.
Re: Hamilcar Barca founded Barcelona? - Justin of the New Yorkii - 01-21-2010
Quote:According to Pomponius Mela, it was in fact founded by the Lacetani (2.90; cf. Pliny the Elder 3.22, Ptolemy Geography 2.6.18). It looks as if someone accepted the sound of Barca in Barcelona as evidence about its founder.
Awesome, thanks for the references!
Re: Hamilcar Barca founded Barcelona? - Untilatie - 01-21-2010
The Iberian Lacetani name of the city of Barcelona was Barkino... it was from this name that Romans gave the name to the new city founded at 9 b. C. beside the old Iberian city, sited over Montjuic mountain. It was a very common phenomenon that the new Roman administration gave the new cities names so similar to its original Iberian name... Barcelona/Barkino; Badalona/Baitulo; Tarragona/Tarakon... probably, it was an effective system for made the Iberian inhabitants of the ancient Iberian settlements thought the situation was still the same before they arrived. Obviously, it was not at all.
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