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Inscriptions from Pisidian Antioch - D B Campbell - 07-07-2009

Does anyone have a secret store of photos of inscriptions from Pisidian Antioch (Yalvac, Turkey)?

I am looking for an image of CIL III 6809 (ILS 2696), the career inscription of Publius Anicius Maximus. (Actually, I'm not sure if the inscription is still on-site. Perhaps it was removed to a provincial museum?)

Re: Inscriptions from Pisidian Antioch - Lucius Rabirius - 07-07-2009

Did you search in this book: Dobson, Brian, Die Primipilares. Entwicklung und Bedeutung, Laufbahnen und Persönlichkeiten eines römischen Offiziersranges (Köln, Bonn 1978) 188 f. ?

The CIL- database ( http://cil.bbaw.de/dateien/cil_pgsql_qu ... 44499f29a3 ) tells, that you can get further information there. I dont know, if this helps you.

Re: Inscriptions from Pisidian Antioch - D B Campbell - 07-07-2009

Thanks, but no picture. Sad

Re: Inscriptions from Pisidian Antioch - M. CVRIVS ALEXANDER - 07-08-2009

I took pictures at the site and in the local museum in January, specifically targeting the artifacts with military connotations. However, I did not see the inscription. I don't think I missed it; probably, it was not there or not in the exposition.

Re: Inscriptions from Pisidian Antioch - D B Campbell - 07-08-2009

Pity. It's one of the few inscriptions to mention a bellum Britannicum.

Re: Inscriptions from Pisidian Antioch - Gaius Julius Caesar - 07-09-2009

What period is it from? Caesars invasion, or a later period?

Re: Inscriptions from Pisidian Antioch - D B Campbell - 07-09-2009

Quote:What period is it from? Caesars invasion, or a later period?
Seems to be the Claudian invasion. It's actually a really interesting text. Our man was personal aide to Cn. Domitius Ahenobarbus, Nero's daddy, so he was at the heart of empire.

([size=85:2c4m63zt]Would make an excellent subject for an article in Ancient Warfare magazine, hint hint ... Smile [/size])

Re: Inscriptions from Pisidian Antioch - popularis - 07-11-2009

Quote:I took pictures at the site and in the local museum in January, specifically targeting the artifacts with military connotations. However, I did not see the inscription. I don't think I missed it; probably, it was not there or not in the exposition.
You didn't happen to take any pictures did you? Specifically of AE 1913, 235 = AE 1922, +78 = AE 1922, +79 = AE 2001, 1919 = ILS 9502, concerning C. Caristanius C.f. Ser(gia) Fronto Caesianus Iulius. There's no published image of it, and while the text is pretty much fine, I'd like to know if it's a statue base or not Smile

Re: Inscriptions from Pisidian Antioch - D B Campbell - 07-11-2009

Quote:... I'd like to know if it's a statue base or not Smile
It certainly doesn't look like a statue base, although the reference to statua in the second last line is suspicious! Cheesman found it "in a wall" which suggests that it's just a slab. (I guess I'm looking for a plinth, but of course it could have been detached prior to re-use "in a wall"!)

Re: Inscriptions from Pisidian Antioch - popularis - 07-11-2009

Quote:
popularis:2jc2i449 Wrote:... I'd like to know if it's a statue base or not Smile
It certainly doesn't look like a statue base, although the reference to statua in the second last line is suspicious! Cheesman found it "in a wall" which suggests that it's just a slab. (I guess I'm looking for a plinth, but of course it could have been detached prior to re-use "in a wall"!)

Thank you so much! Alas, I made a mistake. I meant AE 1914, 260 (= AE 1922, +79 = AE 1930, +127 = AE 2001, 1920 = ILS 9503), not AE 1913, 235 (= AE 1922, +78 = AE 1922, +79 = AE 2001, 1919 = ILS 9502). AE 1914, 260 is the one without an image, and if I remember rightly is recorded from a transcription of Ramsey via Cheesman (Cheesman (1913) 254). There's a nice discussion of all of the major inscriptions for Caristanius Fronto Caesianus Iullus in Christol, M., Drew-Bear, T., and Taslianan, M. (2001), ‘L’empereur Claude, le chevalier C. Caristanius Fronto Caesianus Iullus et le culte impérial à Antioche de Pisidie’, Tyche 16 (2001) 1-20. I think they conclude that the image above is from a statue base, but quite a big one (a veneer panel placed over brickwork, for instance, rather than masonry).

Thanks for your help on this, it was a cheeky request.

Blue skies

Tom

Re: Inscriptions from Pisidian Antioch - D B Campbell - 07-11-2009

Quote:Thanks for your help on this, it was a cheeky request.
My pleasure. It sounds as if you, like me, are sitting around killing time until the sun passes the yard arm! Big Grin

Re: Inscriptions from Pisidian Antioch - M. CVRIVS ALEXANDER - 07-12-2009

Quote:You didn't happen to take any pictures did you?

This is all I got both from the site and the museum:

Re: Inscriptions from Pisidian Antioch - M. CVRIVS ALEXANDER - 07-12-2009

Here are some more pics taken by another member of the group with a better camera - it was dark and no flash allowed, so it is what it is.

Re: Inscriptions from Pisidian Antioch - D B Campbell - 07-12-2009

Quote:This is all I got both from the site and the museum:
That first picture is intriguing, Alexander. It doesn't appear to have been published -- or, at least, it has slipped through the Clauss-Slaby database (as far as I can see).

Calpurnius is not a rare nomen in Pisidian Antioch, but (intriguingly) we seem to have a man who had been tribune in a high-numbered legion -- looks like XXIIII, so a Civil War legion. The next line is interesting, too. (As you may know, dedicatory inscriptions have quite a formulaic text, which is why missing bits can often be restored with some confidence.) Our Calpurnius has perhaps dedicated a temple or shrine, which commonly appear in the inscriptions as templum cum signis or aedes cum signis, or similar, meaning that our man had provided the whole shooting match, building + statues. I cannot see what comes next, though. I'd expect a verb like fecit ("built") or posuit ("set up") or dedit ("handed over") or restituit ("restored") -- maybe someone else can spot what this word is?

Re: Inscriptions from Pisidian Antioch - M. CVRIVS ALEXANDER - 07-12-2009

Great analysis!

The inscription reads:

L.CALPVRNIVS.
TRIB.LEG.XXIIII V
CVM.SIGNIS.DEDIT