+- RomanArmyTalk (https://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat)
+-- Forum: Research Arena (https://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/forumdisplay.php?fid=4)
+--- Forum: Roman Military History & Archaeology (https://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/forumdisplay.php?fid=8)
+--- Thread: Hibernia (/showthread.php?tid=15311)
Pages:
1
2
Re: Hibernia - Robert Vermaat - 06-28-2009
Quote:I'd be interested in your reasons for pah'ing the Dunning theory, for starters - I much prefer Bennachie myself!Me too, but please do so in a new thread. :wink:
Re: Hibernia - marka - 06-30-2009
Quote:marka:1txv52gv Wrote:most of the western provinces didn't pay for themselves at least britain had good farm lands and resources ie tin.There were probably more strategic reasons for holding gaul and britain ie population movement control
Ireland had timber, wolfhounds gold and the most talented goldsmiths in western europe 8)
wherabouts where the gold deposits?where there any tin mines?
add slaves as well of course.
if the gold deposits were large i'm surprised the roman didn't try at least one invasion (gold was certainly one reason for invading dacia)
Re: Hibernia - Ceannt - 06-30-2009
Quote:Ceannt:3ekj0x3l Wrote:marka:3ekj0x3l Wrote:most of the western provinces didn't pay for themselves at least britain had good farm lands and resources ie tin.There were probably more strategic reasons for holding gaul and britain ie population movement control
Ireland had timber, wolfhounds gold and the most talented goldsmiths in western europe 8)
wherabouts where the gold deposits?where there any tin mines?
add slaves as well of course.
if the gold deposits were large i'm surprised the roman didn't try at least one invasion (gold was certainly one reason for invading dacia)
Gold in mayo, (we have coal as well but i dont know if it was mined then) most of ireland untill the 15th cen A.D was forested
Re: Hibernia - Nathan Ross - 06-30-2009
From Juvenal's 2nd Satire (probably published somewhere around 115AD):
Quote:arma quidem ultra
litora Iuvernae promovimus et modo captas
Orcades ac minima contentos nocte Brittanos
sed quae nunc populi fiunt victoris in urbe
non faciunte illi quos vicimus
Juvenal - Satire 2: 159-163
Indeed, we have advanced our arms beyond the shores
of Ireland and the recently captured Orkneys
and the mighty Britons with their short nights
but the deeds we perform in our victorious city
will never be done by the men we have conquered
This is either
a) Poetic exaggeration
b) Confused translation - Iuvernae might not refer to Ireland...
c) Juvenal's ignorance of British geography
d) A scrap of evidence to suggest that, at some point around 100AD, the Romans did indeed 'advance beyond the shores of Ireland' :o
- N Ross
Re: Hibernia - marka - 07-01-2009
the romans may well have tried to influence the successions of kings in ireland,may be even small scale training of troops but beyond that i tend to doubt it