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Batavia - ALBANUS F - 01-07-2009

1* Are the Batavia, Celt or roman in the Netherland.

2* are in the netherlands. Celt in 100 AD


Re: Batavia - jvrjenivs - 01-07-2009

Hi Albanus F,

Please add your real (first) name in your signature and profile as that's a forum rule. What do you want to know about the batavians?

A nice introduction about batavians can be found at the RMRS website.
[url:13uoppp5]http://www.romanarmy.net/batavian.htm[/url]

You also could look for the books by the Amsterdam university press where Roymans and Nicolay published some very interesting stuff about batavians in the lower Rhine arae last couple of years (yeah, batavians are hot topic right now)

See for instance
[url:13uoppp5]http://www.halos.nl[/url] for those books.


Re: Batavia - Lucius Rabirius - 01-07-2009

See also as sources Tacitus and Vegetius. Also interesting are sources about the Year of the Four emperors and early Vespasian age for the Revolt of the Batavi.

If you want very easy ressources but not so reliable as maybe other pages you can search at Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolt_of_the_Batavi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batavi

Tacitus Book IV: http://classics.mit.edu/Tacitus/histories.4.iv.html

Kindly regards


Re: Batavia - Jona Lendering - 01-07-2009

Quote:1* Are the Batavia, Celt or roman in the Netherland
It depends on your definition whether you call the Batavians Celts, Germans, or Romans. Since Caesar, the Romans called anyone living east of the Rhine a German. That would make the Batavians Germans, and indeed, Tacitus calls them German. From a cultural point of view, Celtic might to some extent be defendable. After 39 or 19 BCE, they fought as allies of Rome, and the tribes east of the Rhine would have called those auxiliaries Romans.
Quote:2* are in the netherlands. Celt in 100 AD
If by Celt you mean people who belong, archaeologically to the La Tene Culture and linguistically to the Celtic languages, there were never Celts in the Netherlands. The book to read is Danny Lamarcq & Marc Rogge, De taalgrens (1996 Leuven), which is the best book ever written on the ancient history of the Netherland. It is based on M. Gysseling, "Germanisering en taalgrens" in: Algemene geschiedenis der Nederlanden 1 (1981) 100-115, which is rather technical. So, try to read Lamarcq & Rogge, or send me a p.m. and I will send you the digital file of my excerpt.


Re: Batavia - ALBANUS F - 01-08-2009

Thanks for information.

The Batavians (Latin Batavi)[1] were a Germanic tribe, originally part of the Chatti, reported by Tacitus.

Please information about the Gear and Clothing.

Thanks


Re: Batavia - jvrjenivs - 01-08-2009

For gear and clothing take a look at the articles by peronis on romanarmy.net (article batavian helmets)

Get your copy of Ancient-warfare I.1 where Adrian published a short intro on it.

And again I would recommend you to get a copy of the 'Armed batavians' book by Johan Nicolay (Amsterdam University press, 2007)


Re: Batavia - ALBANUS F - 01-08-2009

Ok. thanks


Re: Batavia - Robert Vermaat - 05-12-2009

Hoi Arie! Big Grin