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Patterns for european size 43 caligae? - JVL - 12-18-2007
Hello!
I would like to ask if someone here on this forum has full size patterns for roman, circa 140 A.D caligae of european size 43?
You need to scale the pattern - Neuraleanus - 12-18-2007
However, there is no "140AD caligae pattern" as caligae were not used by then. For 2nd century you want calcei, a closed boot.
You need to tailor whatever pattern that you find to your particular feet. The "duct tape over an old sock" method is one way to make the required adjustments. Put on an old sock, cover your foot with celaphane, and wrap with duck tape. Draw the pattern on the duck tape and carefully cut the tape away from your foot and lay flat.
You may also want to start by enlarging an existing pattern to match the length of your largest foot and then adjust the pattern using the duck tape method.
So, do you really want caligae, 1st century, or calcei, 2nd century?
Re: Patterns for european size 43 caligae? - JVL - 12-19-2007
If the calcei are more accurate, I would want them, they're probably easier to make too. does anuone have patterns? And how thick the leather should be?
Re: Patterns for european size 43 caligae? - Martin Moser - 12-19-2007
Quote:If the calcei are more accurate, I would want them, they're probably easier to make too.
I'd say no, if anything, more experience is necessary to make calcei. You want a low type, like this one. Look for Antonine finds.
Re: Patterns for european size 43 caligae? - JVL - 12-19-2007
Martin, I have heard that you are an expert on the roman footwear, so I'd like to ask some questions:
How thick leather should you use for a calcei or caligae?
Which ones(calcei or caligae) should I make, because I have got a Newstead segmentata coming up and I need accurate shoes?
Do you have patterns for these?
Where could I acquire good hobnails?
Thank you.
Calcei and hobnails - Neuraleanus - 12-19-2007
Here is a good site for how to make calcei:
[url:3szt6vif]http://www.florentius.com/calcei-main.htm[/url]
You will need to make your own pattern. He shows how to do this.
Matt Lukes is taking orders for accurate hobnails. I do not know when these will be available though. Cast hobnails that are almost as good are available from Le Prevo:
[url:3szt6vif]http://www.leprevo.co.uk/rivets.html[/url]
For caligae, I have started using 8-9oz leather for the uppers, 14oz bends for the out-sole, and 7-8oz leather for the in-sole.
Re: Patterns for european size 43 caligae? - JVL - 12-19-2007
Quote:For caligae, I have started using 8-9oz leather for the uppers, 14oz bends for the out-sole, and 7-8oz leather for the in-sole.
Can you tell what are these thicknesses in millimeters? I am not too familiar with the american system.
Re: Patterns for european size 43 caligae? - Peroni - 12-19-2007
Leather Thickness Conversion Chart
http://www.sbearstradingpost.com/toolin ... Conversion
Re: Patterns for european size 43 caligae? - Martin Moser - 12-19-2007
Hi Juuso,
I took the liberty to split your thread here up to continue the 2nd century calcei discussion under a proper subject here. Hope that's ok with you ....