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wolfskin - caius aelius corvus - 11-12-2007 :?: Hi, I would like to know if wolfskin was worn (on helmet) by a specific standard bearer : aquilifer ? imaginifer ? Concerning the cornicines and tubicines, they are sometimes covered with a bearskin. Do you have period illustration of musicians with wolfskin ? Can someone give me the earlier and latter known representation of a miles with a wolfskin on his helmet ? Was the skin sewn on the helmet ? Glued ? According to you, was the wolfskin connected with Remus and Romulus or rather to other myths (Hades and so Pluto, Silvanus, etc) ? Many thanks in advance for your help. Hervé CAILLAU from Novempopulania Re: wolfskin - Marcus Mummius - 11-12-2007 You're opening a can of worms here! I advise you to first read through these older discussions here on RAT: http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic. ... =wolf+bear http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic. ... =wolf+bear http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic. ... =wolf+bear http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic. ... =wolf+bear And there are some more threads. The search function at the top of the page is a wonderful tool :wink: Vale, Re: wolfskin - M. Demetrius - 11-12-2007 The one safe part of that question set is, "How was the pelt held onto the helmet?" AmerIndian fur pelt hats were sometimes just tied under the chin with a narrow leather strap. They used the head and legs also, and sometimes crawled on hands and knee, with the animal's ears making a silhouette that didn't look like a person. Back on topic, with a metal "bowl" on one's head, would there have been other attachments besides the crossed paws under the chin? Re: wolfskin - Aetius Helvius Merula - 11-13-2007 Tie it on to the crest holders, or cheeckpieces? I just got my Gallic H, and I can see a few places to run thongs through to attach a wolfskin (or pelt). Of course the original helmets wouldn't have had those same fittings, but still.... Re: wolfskin - caius aelius corvus - 11-13-2007 Many thanks Marcus, This subject is "spicy". Well, I must admit that I was influenced by modern illustrations. Wolfskin was an evidence for me. Until someone gives me a proof of the use of a wolfskin by a 1rst BC roman soldier, I won't go that way. But looking at Flavius Crispus's coin pictures and my columns pictures, that's really hard to say which animal is illustrated. The one who can be sure to see a bear has better eyes than mine. All the best. Hervé CAILLAU from Novempopulania Re: wolfskin - Marcus Mummius - 11-13-2007 You're very welcome! Vale, |