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"Lost Battles" - Duncan Head - 11-09-2007

There's an interesting promo page on Philip Sabin's forthcoming Lost Battles: Reconstructing the Great Clashes of the Ancient World
at http://www.kcl.ac.uk/schools/sspp/ws/st ... ttles.html

Includes a downloadable extract about the Hydaspes.


Re: "Lost Battles" - Narukami - 11-10-2007

Very interesting indeed.

Thanks for the link! Big Grin

Narukami


"Lost Battles" - Paullus Scipio - 11-10-2007

Hhh..mmm..mmmm.
Interesting enough, but if the sample chapter is anything to go by, nothing new.The modelling techniques Sabin uses are well-known, and have been in use for many years.......


Re: "Lost Battles" - Sean Manning - 11-10-2007

Quote:There's an interesting promo page on Philip Sabin's forthcoming Lost Battles: Reconstructing the Great Clashes of the Ancient World
at http://www.kcl.ac.uk/schools/sspp/ws/st ... ttles.html

Includes a downloadable extract about the Hydaspes.
Its interesting to see wargaming get some academic respect. I suppose renaming it "conflict simulation" and designing a system for realism first would help.

However, I'd have to read his introductory chapters to see if his model is convincing. The Hydaspes article sounds like it is pretty rough one, and of course we often only have a wild guess at the size and composition of one or both armies or even the site of battle.

Do you know what he means by referring to earlier publications of similar methods? All the work by him I know is his Face of Roman Battle article.


Re: "Lost Battles" - Duncan Head - 11-12-2007

Quote:Do you know what he means by referring to earlier publications of similar methods? All the work by him I know is his Face of Roman Battle article.
He probably includes the series of simulations/games he's published for the Society of Ancients, notably Strategos - see http://www.soa.org.uk/strategos2.asp

And did you follow the link to http://www.kcl.ac.uk/schools/sspp/ws/consim.html ?

Not sure what else there might be.


Re: "Lost Battles" - Tarbicus - 11-12-2007

Quote:And did you follow the link to http://www.kcl.ac.uk/schools/sspp/ws/consim.html ?
Thanks for that Duncan. Cynoscephalae, Magnesia and Trebia are available for free download, and the freeware (donations accepted via Paypal) Cyberboard for playing them is here: http://cyberboard.brainiac.com/

Would be interesting to see what everyone thinks.

More here:
http://flavioezio.interfree.it/Imperium%20Romanum.htm
http://flavioezio.interfree.it/Imperium%20Romanum.htm


Re: "Lost Battles" - Duncan Head - 11-12-2007

Quote:All the work by him I know is his Face of Roman Battle article.

Oh yes - he's also one of the authors of the forthcoming (and rather more expensive) two-volume Cambridge History of Greek and Roman Warfare. Due 31/12/2007 if anyone wants to save up their Christmas money - £209.00 for the two volumes from amazon.co.uk!