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Re: What do you mean, The Celtic cross? - Robert Vermaat - 03-09-2007
Quote:In this szkita.lap.hu and etruszk.lap.hu you found many information, not just Hungarian language, english and german language.
What should I find?
I find just hundreds and hundreds of links, many to other links pages with many many links. And 99.99% of these are in Hungarian. Only a few are in English or German, and most of these are links to websites with general information, such as tourism and legends.
I find no scientific articles that I can read, sorry. Not your fault, you're not the author after all. I base myself on what you write, and that seems to carry so very many errors that it doesn't seem worth the effort.
Re: What do you mean, The Celtic cross? - Cornelius Quintus - 03-09-2007
Avete omnes,
seems to be very simple at all.
The first man on earth was becoming hungry after a while. So he truly has to be classified as an Hungarian.
Logically all following important events in mankind's history are basically Hungarian, too. :wink:
Re: What do you mean, The Celtic cross? - Treveri Gaul - 03-09-2007
Hallo Cornelius.
Ich denke das ist eine gute vicc, aber...... :lol: Nothing could be better.Translate it the Hungarian text. :wink:
Freundliche begrüß
Eine Vallus aus Treveri Volkstamm :lol:
Re: What do you mean, The Celtic cross? - Treveri Gaul - 03-09-2007
Cornelius.
A sudden thought struck me. Look this text. Who is Hungry or Who is Hungary? :wink:
"Die Magyaren und das Ungarische Reich" author: Pia Steinbauer - Hösch Edgar, Herm Gerhard, Mczynska Magdalena, Weithmann M. W. és Wucher Albert : "Sogar ihr Name, Magyaren (Söhne der Erde), hat sich bis heute als Bezeichnung für die Ungarn erhalten"
Alles gute
Re: What do you mean, The Celtic cross? - Cornelius Quintus - 03-09-2007
Ave Vallus,
nagyon köszonom! (Many thanks – I hope the online dictionary translated that right)
Your German is far better than my Hungarian. So I won’t be able to understand or translate all Hungarian links or texts. Honestly, I have problems to follow this discussion.
English language sources with direct links straight to the point would perhaps help?
Many thanks for the German language sources!
At least, I hope no Hungarian is hungry now
:wink:
Re: What do you mean, The Celtic cross? - Chariovalda - 03-09-2007
Quote:At least, I hope no Hungarian is hungry now
:wink:
*Sigh* Once again, people ignore the little-known Caucasian people of the Starvatians, who, like the Alan-descended Ossetians and the Avars of Dagestan once were colossi striding across the Ancient World from Zandvoort-aan-Zee to Petropavlovsk-Kamtsjatski. :wink:
[size=75:134w4x9t]Any appearance of subtlety or sarcasm is purely coincidental[/size]
8)
Re: Another Celtic simbol - Arahne - 03-10-2007
Quote:The changes severely influence the present wiew of the Roman history shorten significantly its duration and influence also its in role European history..... "JUst to note this idea of reconsidering chronology of antiquity was laregely developed by mathematician Fomenko. The problem is that he neglected the chronological continuity of coins, besides all archaeological data. In some parts of his book he is simply lying.
Ideas of autochtonicity of modern Balkan nations in Danube region are widely spread by Croats, Serbs, Muslims, Romanians, Bulgarians, Macedonians, Albanians. The purpose is to establish the claim to the land
.So there are tons of reasons for exploring the past and not to try to adapt the history to political needs.
Re: Another Celtic simbol - Robert Vermaat - 03-10-2007
Quote:So there are tons of reasons for exploring the past and not to try to adapt the history to political needs.Well-said, Stefan!!
Re: What do you mean, The Celtic cross? - Chariovalda - 03-10-2007
For a short, quick dip into the minefield of historical revisionism, especially the linguistic part of it, try to take a look at "Linguistic reconstruction and revisionist Accounts of Ancient History" by the British linguist Mark Newbrook:
[url:3f7m5rx0]http://www.skeptics.com.au/journal/2000/2.pdf[/url].
The article starts at page 42 and refers to an older article which is interesting as well: "Cows Dogs and Ancestors. Modern Myths of the Remote Past", which can be read here [url:3f7m5rx0]http://www.skeptics.com.au/journal/1994/2.pdf[/url], starting at page 16.
Newbrook actually refers to some Dutch nutty cases, like the "Oera Linda book", and the Dutch writer/poet Willem Rietbrink, who claims that Dutch is the mother of all Human languages... :wink:
Re: What do you mean, The Celtic cross? - Treveri Gaul - 03-10-2007
Hallo.
Danno Ulpius:
"Sumerian is an isolate, that is, it's not related to any other known language. You can't do historical linguistics just by looking at words that seem similar or look alike. There's a whole raft of other issues to consider."
Is that what your teacher
The problem was, the truth would lead to a lot more questions. You know, what mean this word: Gall. In Hungarian: Celtic/Keltoi.
This GALL word original sumerian. Meaning: The People. Irish language: GAOL.
Who is Hungarian?
Born in Charpatian Basin: sabirok, sumerian, trójaiak, kimmerek, szkithian, thrak (and daha), celtic and many tribes "szittya" népek, jászok, hun, avarian, onogurok, he insist: Magyar-ok from etnogenesis
Re: What do you mean, The Celtic cross? - Chariovalda - 03-10-2007
Quote:You know, what mean this word: Gall. In Hungarian: Celtic/Keltoi.
This GALL word original sumerian. Meaning: The People. Irish language: GAOL.
Aren't you confusing it with "gal", Sumerian for big / large, as in lu-gal ("man-big/large" = king) or gal-gal-di ("large-large-to judge"=boaster)?
By Hercules Magusanus, how I love the online Sumerian lexicon... 8)
Re: What do you mean, The Celtic cross? - Dan Diffendale - 03-10-2007
Quote:By Hercules Magusanus, how I love the online Sumerian lexicon... 8)I'm glad to have been a (small) part of it... 8)
But in any case, you're right, there's no meaning of gal in Sumerian that means "people."
Quote:You know, what mean this word: Gall. In Hungarian: Celtic/Keltoi.Vallus, by your method, the Celts were all terribly bitter because they had skin abrasions, because that's what "GALL" means in English!
This GALL word original sumerian. Meaning: The People. Irish language: GAOL.
Languages change through time. Words change. How easily can you read the 12th century Hungarian in Halotti beszéd?
( http://users.tpg.com.au/etr/oldhu/halotti.html )
I'm sure you can read it, but look at how different some of the words are, and that's in 800 years. Imagine how much different things would look over 3000 years, from the death of spoken Sumerian until today!
Re: What do you mean, The Celtic cross? - Treveri Gaul - 03-10-2007
Danno Ulpius.
I'm impressed. :lol: I understand all from the old Hungarian text / Halotti Beszéd. Dictionary
Re: What do you mean, The Celtic cross? - Treveri Gaul - 03-10-2007
sorry.
Dictionary. There's no need. Just little different words. 90% Exactly. :lol:
Danno Ulpius:
" Etruscan doesn't need to be "decoded." Sure, it's not perfectly understood (see, for instance, the Zagreb mummy wrapping), but thus far it's also an isolate "
In Bulgarian found this Etruskian text.
Re: What do you mean, The Celtic cross? - Treveri Gaul - 03-10-2007
Hungarian runa write mode translation this text.
The text circa 2500 years old:
Barát vót e királ alak asz a sirja, fia él, árfa. I understanding this text.
" Barát volt e király, annak a sÃrja ez, a fia él árva.
" This King was my frend, she have this burial, son's alive, orphan.