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Re: Carthaginian officer (405 bC) - Untilatie - 06-11-2008
That's right, Stephanos!
We utilized this two coins:
![[Image: monedapnica1.jpg]](http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z220/joselitog/monedapnica1.jpg)
![[Image: monedapunica2.jpg]](http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z220/joselitog/monedapunica2.jpg)
We take the horse from one of them and the palm from the other. This is the only reference we could get. We send the design to Ferran Garreta and he simply transferred to the brass aspis.
And here the carthaginian lined up with the greek hoplites of Athenea Promakhos in the "Cronica Mundi" Festival of Almansa (Albacete, Spain).
http://www.almansadigital.com/fotos/CRO ... os_griegos
Re: Carthaginian officer (405 bC) - Gaius Julius Caesar - 06-11-2008
Whoa! That red one is awesome!!!! Give eet to me!
Who is that guy?
Re: Carthaginian officer (405 bC) - hoplite14gr - 06-11-2008
Tough lady of the Megakeidae clan.
I saw so many accurate shield designs that I suspect we got an audience in Spain.
Kind regards
Re: Carthaginian officer (405 bC) - Mythos_Ruler - 06-11-2008
By Athena!
hock:
Re: Carthaginian officer (405 bC) - Untilatie - 06-11-2008
jeje... she's the girlfriend of Alberto, the boy with the double-crested delphi helmet in the photograph.
Re: Carthaginian officer (405 bC) - Servio Caro (Javier Sánc - 06-11-2008
everytime I tell my girlfriend to dress the greek way and go to some festival she looks me in a strange way....
Re: Carthaginian officer (405 bC) - Ceasar Augustus - 06-11-2008
Great pic Comerus, I wish I had all that gear.
Re: Carthaginian officer (405 bC) - Mythos_Ruler - 06-12-2008
I like the shape of her Corinthian - the rounded profile of the cheek pieces.
Re: Carthaginian officer (405 bC) - Ceasar Augustus - 06-13-2008
I don't think they're very rounded... maybe I'm looking at it wrong.
Re: Carthaginian officer (405 bC) - Mythos_Ruler - 06-13-2008
The bottom curve of the cheek pieces. Compare it to, say, the helmet to her immediate left.
Re: Carthaginian officer (405 bC) - Ceasar Augustus - 06-14-2008
Ah ok.
Re: Carthaginian officer (405 bC) - Untilatie - 06-29-2008
How could we make the pteruges for this high officer?
It's a kind of complete subarmalis or are they just sewed to the lorica?
Thanks
Re: Carthaginian officer (405 bC) - hoplite14gr - 06-29-2008
Differing opinions here.
Some artistic interpretations give argument to the "sewn on armor" theory.
Yet from dawn of time people found out that it is a good idea to "cushion" blows on metal. So the subarmalis is valid.
Probably you will not be able to persuade any side for the right of the other.
Kind regards
Re: Carthaginian officer (405 bC) - Giannis K. Hoplite - 06-29-2008
The pteryges should most probably be thick and stiff leather. They should be no longer than a linothorax pteryges. Later the pteryges may had been linen and longer and they looked more like the roman sculptures. In your era,end of 5th century you'd need something like this:
http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o118 ... hens3a.jpg
http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o118 ... hens2a.jpg
http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o118 ... hens1a.jpg
There is no evidence of a subarmour in the greeks at this time. They should probably be sewn on the thorax.Also,no shoulder pteryges should be made.
Khaire
Giannis
Re: Carthaginian officer (405 bC) - Ceasar Augustus - 07-05-2008
Wow Giannis, where do you find these links?