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Re: Kalkriese Lorica - ANTONIVS MAGNVS - 01-04-2012

Gaius do you have any photos of you wearing it? How does it feel when on? How is the movement? Whether or not those shoulder plates are accurate it is a fantastic piece of art and I would be proud to own it. Wonderful craftsmanship.


Re: Kalkriese Lorica - kyvernat - 01-04-2012

Quote:I can
assure you the curved shouolder plates are placed both fron and rear, (which is visible on the website) and my photos, so it's not asymetrical.
So are you saying that the both front and rear plates of the upper shoulderguard aren't sharkfin-shaped? That's IMHO weird, too... :?


Re: Kalkriese Lorica - Gaius Julius Caesar - 01-04-2012

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Actually your right the shark fin shape at the back is correct. 8)
It grows on you.


Quote:egad, rounded? shades of Trajan's column...

Rich, I assume you disagree with every comparison of equipment to that portrayed in ancient records of the period? :wink:


Re: Kalkriese Lorica - ANTONIVS MAGNVS - 01-04-2012

Thanks! Great pictures. Visually I think it works. Whether or not it is accurate is up for debate. For what it is worth (and it's not worth much) I tend to hold the view that the Kalkriese would have straps instead of the loops. I'd really love to see the shark-fin piece that was found but I would tend to think it would be the same shape front and back. If we are comparing to Trajan's Column wouldn't that be about 100 years to late for this type? Just goes to show how little we really know. I'd also think that it would be within reason to think all the shoulder and chest plates would be edged with brass, but that is really secondary to the shape of the plates. Reconstructing items like this really adds to our understanding and fosters discussion. Thanks for posting these pics.


Re: Kalkriese Lorica - Gaius Julius Caesar - 01-05-2012

Noo problem Jay!

Well I only make the comparison as this is the first evidence I have seen
Associated with a seg with curved plates related to the shoulder plates. And don't forget they often portrY archaic equipment on the reliefs and statues. Just a thought anyway!


Re: Kalkriese Lorica - richsc - 01-05-2012

I just hate to think those Cine Cita Romans have some basis for their razberries.


Re: Kalkriese Lorica - Gaius Julius Caesar - 01-05-2012

Well to be honest, I find it hard to believe the artist (or the people who comissioned the works),had no idea what any military equipment actually looked like.
Considering we have access to a fraction of what they did, I wonder who is doing more guess work.
Still the idea would not be totally out there seeing the drawings of the recnt plate finds.


Re: Kalkriese Lorica - Gaius Julius Caesar - 01-05-2012

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Artem post=303081 Wrote:They've placed the sharkfin-shaped piece to the back of the reconstruction: http://www.replik-online.de/de/shop/bilder/181909120210_rrw2e.jpg Wink
Thereby making it asymmetrical?! Weird! As Spock might say, illogical, too.

Mike Bishop

Well, not totally illogical. Most reconstructions I've seen have the back plates shorter than the front. At least it would appear so to me.


Re: Kalkriese Lorica - ANTONIVS MAGNVS - 01-05-2012

I know the recent finds haven't been published but are any photos or drawings available? Although I guess that would make them published :lol:


Re: Kalkriese Lorica - Gaius Julius Caesar - 01-06-2012

Hmmm, I can't recall if I posted them in the thread about
This armour! I'll have to check! If not I will have to ask if I can post them!


Re: Kalkriese Lorica - Robert Vermaat - 01-06-2012

Quote:Well to be honest, I find it hard to believe the artist (or the people who comissioned the works),had no idea what any military equipment actually looked like.
Me too. However, it's clear that he stylized a lot of what he portrayed. That does not make it wrong of course, but at least generalised.


Re: Kalkriese Lorica - ANTONIVS MAGNVS - 01-19-2012

Was permission granted? :grin:

Any chance to see it on you? I'd love to see how it "hangs" when worn.


Re: Kalkriese Lorica - Gaius Julius Caesar - 01-19-2012

It is awaiting repairs.... :oops: :oops: I was a bit too energetic
pulling on a strap and wrecked a buckle... :roll:


Re: Kalkriese Lorica - Robert Vermaat - 01-19-2012

Quote: I was a bit too energetic pulling on a strap and wrecked a buckle... :roll:
Already?? Confusedhock: Quality issue or unexpected superpowers? :wink: