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Looking for papers on 5th Century Belt Fittings
#1
Title says it all. I know of a few finds: 1-2 from Gaul, 1 from Switzerland, and the Tenes Horde from Algeria, but that's it. I know of Osjbol Mose as well in Denmark but that's Germanic.

Thanks!
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#2
the youngest parts of the Kemathen belt are 5th, I know of a complete set from Kahl am Main / Aschaffenburg. It is from a germanic grave from the beginning of the 5th.
there are some incomplete sets in the roman graveyard of Straubing-Azlburg and the very broad one from the "Ehrenbürg" close to Forchheim
all places are in Bavaria

and these are only the ones I remember without problems Big Grin
Als Mensch zu dumm, als Schwein zu kleine Ohren...

Jürgen Graßler

http://www.schorsch-der-schmied.de
http://www.facebook.com/pages/AG-Histori...2642993872
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#3
There are many, many...

This I have on my Fectio page from Böhme, H.W. (1986): Das Ende der Römerherrschaft in Britannien und die Angelsachsische Besiedlung Englands im 5. Jahrhundert, in: Jahrbuch des Römisch-Germanischen Zentralmuseums Mainz 33, pp. 468-57
http://www.fectio.org.uk/articles/hwb/hw...igures.htm (fig 19 and below).
More from Britain: http://www.lateromanbuckles.org.uk/
More from Böhme:
Germanische Grabfunde des 4.-5. Jahrhundert zwischen unterer Elbe und Loire (= Studien zur Chronologie und Bevölkerungsgeschichte. Münchner Beiträge Vor- und Frühgeschichte. Bd. 9). Beck, München 1974, ISBN 3-406-00489-X.
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FECTIO Late Romans
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#4
Thanks you two. I knew there were a lot from Britain. These images are great, but do you guys have any publications on belt finds? I'm really interested in Continental Europe/North Africa/Middle East belt finds from the 5th century.
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#5
Try "Die Gürtel und Gürtelbeschläge des 4. und 5. Jahrhunderts im römischen Reich. Markus Sommer Bonn 1982" a comprehensive study fully illustrated, at the very least it should give an extensive bibliography....
Ivor

"And the four bare walls stand on the seashore. a wreck a skeleton a monument of that instability and vicissitude to which all things human are subject. Not a dwelling within sight, and the farm labourer, and curious traveller, are the only persons that ever visit the scene where once so many thousands were congregated." T.Lewin 1867
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#6
Regarding continental European finds of the fifth century, see the mention of Böhme’s Germanische Grabfunde des 4. bis 5. Jahrhundert zwischen unterer Elbe und Loire in Robert’s post. Keep In mind that there are two volumes (text and plates).

I advise you to use Germanische Grabfunde … in conjunction with Böhme’s newer belt chronology. The newer chronology can be found in:

Böhme, H.W. 2008. Gallische Höhensiedlungen und germanische Söldner im 4./5. Jahrhundert. In: Steuer, H. & Bierbrauer, V. eds. Höhensiedlungen zwischen Antike und Mittelalter von den Ardennen bis zur Adria. Berlin: De Gruyter, pp. 71-104.
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#7
Thanks. I can't read German though...

Hopefully some nice images at least, if they're publicly available.
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#8
(09-30-2016, 12:55 AM)Flavivs Aetivs Wrote: Thanks. I can't read German though...

Hopefully some nice images at least, if they're publicly available.

Edit: refers too "Die Gürtel und Gürtelbeschläge des 4. und 5. Jahrhunderts im römischen Reich. Markus Sommer Bonn 1982"

Huge catalogue of images, if you can manage catalogue entrys then it should be no problem, I dont recall much if any reconstruction, mostly drawings of sets of metal belt components.. Here I obtained it fairly easily through the local library by inter library loan and its probably the only way.... there are 13 librarys that hold this book according to WorldCat in the USA, so it should be no problem to get hold of a copy.... its worth the effort.

Alternatively put the title into google and do a search you'll likely get many hits for articles which include it in the biblio and likely incude late roman belt fittings as a result....
Ivor

"And the four bare walls stand on the seashore. a wreck a skeleton a monument of that instability and vicissitude to which all things human are subject. Not a dwelling within sight, and the farm labourer, and curious traveller, are the only persons that ever visit the scene where once so many thousands were congregated." T.Lewin 1867
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#9
(09-30-2016, 12:55 AM)Flavivs Aetivs Wrote: Hopefully some nice images at least, if they're publicly available.

Böhme's 1974 article can be found published here. Outdated for sure, but 386 pages with some images and maps.

Plus a few more:

http://artefacts.mom.fr/de/result.php?id...fmode=vign
Robert Vermaat
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FECTIO Late Romans
THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST
(Maurikios-Strategikon, book VIII.2: Maxim 12)
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#10
Thanks for youur help guys, some great images and I was able to learn and type up the typologies with that website on British belts along with the JRMES article on Hispanic belts.

Never knew Wide Belts and Chip-Carved Belts were the same typology. Lol.
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#11
(10-03-2016, 06:59 AM)Robert Vermaat Wrote: Plus a few more:

http://artefacts.mom.fr/de/result.php?id...fmode=vign

Thanks Robert, Not sure if you intended to supply a link for a PDF of Sommers book, But as its something I've been hoping to find for quite some time Give yourself a Positive rating on my behalf Wink

If any body missed it heres how to get it:

Go to the Artifacts page supplied by Robert:

http://artefacts.mom.fr/de/result.php?id...fmode=vign

scroll down to "Literatur" the last entry is for Sommers book "Die Gürtel und Gürtelbeschläge des 4. und 5. Jahrhunderts im römischen Reich" at end of the entry is a small arrow click on that to download the PDF.
Ivor

"And the four bare walls stand on the seashore. a wreck a skeleton a monument of that instability and vicissitude to which all things human are subject. Not a dwelling within sight, and the farm labourer, and curious traveller, are the only persons that ever visit the scene where once so many thousands were congregated." T.Lewin 1867
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#12
(10-04-2016, 08:29 AM)Crispianus Wrote: Thanks Robert, Not sure if you intended to supply a link for a PDF of Sommers book, But as its something I've been hoping to find for quite some time Give yourself a Positive rating on my behalf Wink

That I can't. But thanks for the thought! Smile
Robert Vermaat
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THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST
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#13
About half of the publication on the Tenes Hoard:

http://tenes.info/galerie/LSLTDTN
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#14
If you can find this one, it's an absolute treasure:
https://www.amazon.de/Gallien-Sp%C3%A4ta...3805304854
Robert Vermaat
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THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST
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