11-22-2009, 03:46 AM
Christian wrote:
We've had this discussion before, as to whether what are now called 'Apulo-Corinthian' helmet usage diasppeared. Most surviving examples date 5th-4th C BC and come from tombs, but the fact that helmets stopped being placed in tombs after c. 300 BC does not necessarily mean they stopped being used, and indeed we see them in iconography fairly frequently - the 2nd C BC Pergamum reliefs, the 1st C BC 'Ahenobarbus' relief worn by a Tribune/Mars and a soldier, 1st C BC-1st C AD Pompeii paintings, and then the 'Autun' example, which Russell-Robinson, the doyen of Roman helmet scholars classified as belonging to this group. Anyone looking at it can see its ancestry. Of course it has some elements but not others.....all helmet types evolved over time, not to mention that they vary individually too !!
Last time you conceded this....
Both statements quoted here cannot be true, since they are contradictory. Which do you now say is false ? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote:The Autun helmet is not an Apulo-Corinthian, it just has some elements from them, and others that are not from them.
We've had this discussion before, as to whether what are now called 'Apulo-Corinthian' helmet usage diasppeared. Most surviving examples date 5th-4th C BC and come from tombs, but the fact that helmets stopped being placed in tombs after c. 300 BC does not necessarily mean they stopped being used, and indeed we see them in iconography fairly frequently - the 2nd C BC Pergamum reliefs, the 1st C BC 'Ahenobarbus' relief worn by a Tribune/Mars and a soldier, 1st C BC-1st C AD Pompeii paintings, and then the 'Autun' example, which Russell-Robinson, the doyen of Roman helmet scholars classified as belonging to this group. Anyone looking at it can see its ancestry. Of course it has some elements but not others.....all helmet types evolved over time, not to mention that they vary individually too !!
Last time you conceded this....
Quote:Youre´right about the helmet, I´m wrong, that´s it.
Both statements quoted here cannot be true, since they are contradictory. Which do you now say is false ? :lol: :lol: :lol: