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How does one pronounce “Celt”? Is it with a hard “c” or a soft “c”? I see in dictionaries that either pronunciation is accepted, but I’ve heard some persuasive arguments that it should always be a hard “c” – “Kelt”. An Irish friend once told me that it was always a hard “c” except for sports franchises, and then it was soft, so “Seltics.”

Is there a definitive answer?
Quote:How does one pronounce “Celt”?
Isn't this the same discussion as "Sisero or Kikero, Seesar or Kaisar"? In other words, isn't this the debate between an early and a late pronounciation of the same language?
Quote:An Irish friend once told me that it was always a hard “c” except for sports franchises, and then it was soft, so “Seltics.”

Is there a definitive answer?

Your friend was right - always a hard K. Greek Keltoi and Roman Celtae were both 'hard', and the modern 'Celt' is likewise. The confusion comes mainly from the Glasgow Irish/Catholic football club Celtic, pronounced 'Seltic', which was named back in the nineteenth century and maintains the mispronunciation. This has carried over into various other sporting names - racehorses etc.

There's a rather rude story (which perhaps I shouldn't repeat here :!: ) about the Welsh actor Richard Burton - while at a party in Hollywood, he was approached by an over-familiar Irish American, who explained that he too was a Selt. Burton replied something along the lines of 'No, I'm a Celt. You're a Sunt.' :wink:

- Nathan
Quote:Isn't this the same discussion as "Sisero or Kikero, Seesar or Kaisar"?
A variation thereof. UK archaeologists always say "Keltic", ... perhaps simply to draw a distinction with the football team?
Thanks for the comments, everyone.

Quote:Isn't this the same discussion as "Sisero or Kikero, Seesar or Kaisar"? In other words, isn't this the debate between an early and a late pronounciation of the same language?
I had no idea what you were talking about until I did some internet searches. (I never studied Latin, unfortunately.) Quite interesting!
oh darn, I thought it was pronounced "kelt" as in "kilt", an abbreviation of "killed"

since the only good Kelt has been Kilt.

Oooh! Zing! Just Kidding!! :mrgreen:
Quote:oh darn, I thought it was pronounced "kelt" as in "kilt", an abbreviation of "killed"

since the only good Kelt has been Kilt.

Oooh! Zing! Just Kidding!! :mrgreen:

Hey, Andy

Didn't know you were on these threads. Kelt it is, just as Caesar was pronounced "Kaesar"... which led to the Germanic "Kaisar."

The "guy from Maine"
AJ - It's all good, bro - I was just making a silly joke. I'm well aware of the pronunciation Big Grin

Good to see you here on the board, too.. Mighty Third and it's Auxiliaries taking over RAT! Muahahah! Big Grin
Quote:"Sisero or Kikero, Seesar or Kaisar"?

I've just about adapted to Markellus, Lukius and Kaekilius, pronunciation-wise, but somehow Kikero and Yulius Kaiser don't really work for me.

As for that 'Weni, Widi, Wiki' stuff... all a bit too 'Biggus Dickus', if you know what I mean Smile
Of course. Otherwise you'd be "Pwimus Piwus" of the Judean Wiberation Suicide Squad. :lol: