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really keen on this helm ,i beleive its 4th. cent BC , western med. area , does anyone have any futher info. please

This one comes from private collection.
Same helmet appears on a Macedonian coin at Nemea museum same period.
Probably officer's item.

Kind regards

Quote:This one comes from private collection.
Same helmet appears on a Macedonian coin at Nemea museum same period.
Probably officer's item.

Kind regards

Thank you , do you have an image of the Coin . i found this helm here http://www.freewebtown.com/italica/ital ... nical.html . I also have these images of another example ,shows the neck guard attachment & shape nicely Officers or anyone wealthy enough to afford one i hope as i have a reconstruction in bronze being made. :lol: cheers dave

I see they didn't find the plain pilos adequate either.
But cheaper to modify that have a coritnian made...

Here are two of my favorites.

The look good. i just can't help feeling they would have been quite easy to dislodge in a scrum, but i suppose they were secured quite well.

there an interesting bunch for sure these helms would have been reworked to death :wink: i hope we see more being used in impressions 8) ,the coiled retainers. Plume or feather or both ? , & a horse hair plume could be attached to the ring on top too .

The image I posted about previously.
Enjoy

This helmet is almost certainly southern Italian, where such spring-like crest attachments are commonly found.

Here is another example of a South Italic 'Pilos' type helmet, late 4th - 3rd C B.C. .... this one was formerly part of the well-known Axel Guttman collection....

Wow ! hock: i reckon thats the winner . would helms of this type perhaps been used in Sicily by the Greek /Punic Colonist fighting there in the 4th. cent. BC.

There are evidently few Pilos helms from Italy where we can be sure of the location of their finding. I came across this map that might be useful. Perhaps not suprisingly many locations surround Taras, Sparta's Italian colony.

thanks Paul ,i have seem those maps. Im figuring there would have been a healthy arms trade , & yes given the pilos is a Spartan favorate it is strange so few finds around Taras . I feel these would have been in use in southern Italy (atleast) ,Sicily (with the colonists) & perhaps Eturia & Carthage

ALSO can anyone Help me with scanning & emailing or post to me the pages from the WRG Maco & punic wars Duncan Head ,big ask I Know :oops: .the roman & punic section please. My copy was Borrowed & not returned years ago :roll: cheers dave