I have bough this book ;
"Hand of History - Burden of Pseudo History: Subtitle: Touchstone of Truth
by Tom O Connor"
which, indicates that recent surveys say that extensive Belgic type oppidia have been found in west Ireland .... but .... on reading the first few pages I was taken aback by the style of writing and the vitriol it spouted on long held opinions on Irish history. This has halted my reading as it is coming across as a little dotty.
Can anyone please shed any light on this books origins and the claims that it is making?
Quote:"Hand of History - Burden of Pseudo History: Subtitle: Touchstone of Truth, by Tom O Connor"
He's a
comedian, isn't he?
)
Quote:Belgic type oppidia
I was not aware of any fact that the Belgae built a specific type of
oppidum?
Quote:I was not aware of any fact that the Belgae built a specific type of oppidum?
Wasn't it an old theory that the Belgae were responsible for the development of
oppida?
Quote:Vortigern Studies:3ij2np5w Wrote:I was not aware of any fact that the Belgae built a specific type of oppidum?
Wasn't it an old theory that the Belgae were responsible for the development of oppida?
Must've been a really
old theory. Never heard of it, and I know of many oppida outside 'Belgic' territory. :?
Either way what he is saying is that the building of such oppidia was not an Irish thing but imported from northern Gaul. This indicating a significant Gaulish / Celtic presence in Ireland. I am not sure that it would prove that in numbers but would in cultural terms.
I did not realise the people of ireland were considered to be a seperate
group from the Gauls/Celts of the mainland.... :?
Quote:I did not realise the people of ireland were considered to be a seperate
group from the Gauls/Celts of the mainland.... :?
Some current thinking is that there were no "Celts" at all in either Ireland or Britain.
Quote:Gaius Julius Caesar:1hp378pk Wrote:I did not realise the people of ireland were considered to be a seperate
group from the Gauls/Celts of the mainland.... :?
Some current thinking is that there were no "Celts" at all in either Ireland or Britain.
England for the English and all that. Current thinking maybe, but not current
scholarly thinking.
[/quote]England for the English and all that. Current thinking maybe, but not current scholarly thinking.[/quote]
Not quite what I meant, I was refering to J Collis, M Chapman et al rather than Oppenheimer & the ilk.
The hypothesis that the inhabitents of the British Isles pre-Roman (and therefore pre-English) were not ethnically or culturally linked to the mainland northern European Iron Age peoples.
I would find it possible, maybe even plausible....
We find traces of the Aboriginal inhabitants of the American continnent down in the southern tip of S. America.
So I suppose if there were earlier cultures theat had been displaced in Europe by the movement of the Celtic groups, there would be a good possibility they would be 'protected' on an Island. Espcially one that saw little visitation from the mainland,....?
But then I don't know all the facts......just imagining here!
Facts ...if only it was based on those :?
Unfortuneatly you have "interpretation" getting in the way & people meddling outside their expertise.
Ahhh expertise.....if only..... :roll: :lol:
Quote:I was not aware of any fact that the Belgae built a specific type of oppidum?
They're the ones with a small stall selling frites at the entrance
cheers
Harry A
Forgive me if I'm wrong about this, but to my understanding, there were Gallic/Briton Celts inhabiting Ireland, especially moreso before the arrival of the Goidels/Gaels from around northern Spain. I also believe that some Picts inhabited (probably eastern) Ireland, there is little evidence for this, but it's possible, given the proximity between Scotland and Ireland.
The Gaels called the other Celtic/Pictish inhibitants "Crodda," I think, or "Cruithne."