11-07-2007, 09:13 PM
11-07-2007, 09:35 PM
Nice, which museum is it in?
11-07-2007, 10:26 PM
It's apparently CIL 06, 01318 = CIL 01, p 192 = CIL 11, *00156,04, which means it was considered false by the editor of CIL 11, and it certainly seems strange to me on first glance.
Bello Samnitium / cum auspicii repe/tendi caussa Romam / redisset atque inte/rim Q(uintus) Fabius Amb[ust(i) f(ilius)] / Maximus mag[ister] / equitum iniu[ssu] / [eiu]s proelio c[onflixisset
as per http://www.yorku.ca/uhistory/courses/41 ... aput_i.htm
I can't think of any parallels for filiation by cognomen rather than praenomen; the Q. Fabius Maximus (Rullianus) who was Master of Horse in the Samnite war was the son of Marcus Fabius Ambustus, so it ought to read "M(arci) F(ilius) [...]/"
Anyhow, the orthography makes it impossible that the inscription is contemporary with the man.
Bello Samnitium / cum auspicii repe/tendi caussa Romam / redisset atque inte/rim Q(uintus) Fabius Amb[ust(i) f(ilius)] / Maximus mag[ister] / equitum iniu[ssu] / [eiu]s proelio c[onflixisset
as per http://www.yorku.ca/uhistory/courses/41 ... aput_i.htm
I can't think of any parallels for filiation by cognomen rather than praenomen; the Q. Fabius Maximus (Rullianus) who was Master of Horse in the Samnite war was the son of Marcus Fabius Ambustus, so it ought to read "M(arci) F(ilius) [...]/"
Anyhow, the orthography makes it impossible that the inscription is contemporary with the man.
11-07-2007, 11:49 PM
hock:
Dan, would you mean me that this inscription it's a false????
I have photographed this stone in a museum, where I think there are authentic archaeological finds. So can you confirm that this inscription is false?
Please explain me better
for Fabius: Museum of Parma
Valete
Dan, would you mean me that this inscription it's a false????
I have photographed this stone in a museum, where I think there are authentic archaeological finds. So can you confirm that this inscription is false?
Please explain me better
for Fabius: Museum of Parma
Valete
11-08-2007, 12:18 AM
Quote:hock:I'm not Dan, but I am not surprised; my first impression, before I had read everything, also was surprise. And yes, the Italians -ancient and modern- have been capable of making intrigueing falsifications. :? //www.livius.org/sh-si/sicily/sicily_t23.html:2zkjytbs]This one[/url] is ancient.) I can not judge the stone, as I have never seen it before, but it may indeed be of contested authenticity.
Dan, would you mean me that this inscription it's a false????
11-08-2007, 05:59 AM
What's even more interesting about the inscription Jona refers to is that it shows that apparently the Romans themselves believed the story reported by Polybios that Rome never had a fleet before the first Punic war.