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Further to my post on a possible Roman Camp in Jersey, I have recently come across a reference to an apparent Channel Islander in the Roman Navy.

A. Basiel Sarniensis, son of Turbel, served in the Misenum Fleet under Vespasian and was demobilised on 5th April AD71. Sarniensis means "native of Sarnia", Sarnia being the Roman name for Guernsey - or more probably Sark. If the long held belief that there was a base for the Classis Britannica in the Channel Islands in true, could Sarniensis have been transferred to Misenum?

The name occurs on a bronze diploma found in Corsica in 1920 but the only reference I have for this is "Bourde de la Rogerie, 1921".
Quote:Further to my post on a possible Roman Camp in Jersey, I have recently come across a reference to an apparent Channel Islander in the Roman Navy.
A. Basiel Sarniensis, son of Turbel, served in the Misenum Fleet under Vespasian and was demobilised on 5th April AD71. Sarniensis means "native of Sarnia", Sarnia being the Roman name for Guernsey - or more probably Sark. If the long held belief that there was a base for the Classis Britannica in the Channel Islands in true, could Sarniensis have been transferred to Misenum?
The name occurs on a bronze diploma found in Corsica in 1920 but the only reference I have for this is "Bourde de la Rogerie, 1921".

Ave Carus Andiae,

Here is the text for the diploma mentioned above.

Belegstelle: CIL 16, 00016 = ILGN 00012 = AE 1921, 00048a
Provinz: Corsica Ort: Algaiola
Imp(erator) Caeser(!) Vespasianus Aug(ustus) p/ontifex max(imus) trib(unicia) pot(estate) II imp(erator) VI [p(ater) p(atriae)] / co(n)sul III desig(natus) IIII veteranis qu[i mi]/litaverunt in classe Miseniense(!) su/b Sex(to) Lucilio Basso qui sena et vicena stipendia aut plura meruerunt et / sunt deducti Paestum quorum nom/ina subscripta sunt ipsis liberis pos/terisque eorum civitatem dedit et co/nubium cum uxoribus quas tunc // habuissent cum est civitas i(i)s d/ata aut si qui caelibes essent {cum / est civitas is data aut siqui caelib/es essent} cum is quas postea duxis/sent dumtaxat singulis(!) singu/las Nonis Aprilibus Caesere(!) Aug/usti f(ilio) Domitiano Cn(aeo) Pedio Casco co(n)s(ulibus) / Baslel Turbeli f(ilio) Gallinaria Sarniensis / descriptum et recognitum ex t[abu]la / quae fixa est Romae in Capitolio [in] / podio arae gentis Iuliae / tab(ula) III pag(ina) VI loc(o) XIX // I[mp(erator) Ca]eser(!) Vespasianus Aug(ustus) pontifex m[ax(imus)] / t[rib(unicia) pot(estate) II] imp(erator) VI p(ater) p(atriae) co(n)sul III desig(natus) IIII / veteranis qui militaverunt in classe Mi/seniense(!) sub Sex(to) Lucilio Basso qui sena et vi/cena stipendia aut plura meruerunt et / sunt deducti Paestum quorum nomina / subscripta sunt ipsis liberis posterisque e/orum civitatem dedit et conubium cum / uxoribus quas tunc habuissent cum est ci/vitas is data aut si qui caelibes essent cum i(i)s / quas postea duxissent dumtaxat singuli sing(ulas) / Nonis Aprilibus Caesere(!) Aug(usti) f(ilio) Domitiano ©n(aeo) / Pedio Casco co(n)s(ulibus) / Baslel Turbeli f(ilio) <G=C>allinaria Sa/rniensis descriptu(m) et recognitu(m) ex tabula ae/nea quae fixa est Rom(ae) in Cap(itolio) in pod(io) arae gentis / Iuliae tab(ula) III pag(ina) VI loc(o) XIX // Ti(beri) Iuli Fab(iani) Cestiani / C(ai) Iuli Cornel(i) Nigri / M(arci) Valeri Alexsandn(!) / Alexsandri Magni Macedon(i?) / L(uci) Valeri Veri / L(uci) Licini Pudentis / L(uci) Rufini Chaerea[e]

Hope it helps.

Vale

M. Spedius Corbulo
Quote:Imp(erator) Caeser(!) Vespasianus Aug(ustus) p/ontifex max(imus) trib(unicia) pot(estate) II imp(erator) VI [p(ater) p(atriae)] / co(n)sul III desig(natus) IIII veteranis qu[i mi]/litaverunt in classe Miseniense(!) su/b Sex(to) Lucilio Basso qui sena et vicena stipendia aut plura meruerunt et / sunt deducti Paestum quorum nom/ina subscripta sunt ipsis liberis pos/terisque eorum civitatem dedit et co/nubium cum uxoribus quas tunc // habuissent cum est civitas i(i)s d/ata aut si qui caelibes essent {cum / est civitas is data aut siqui caelib/es essent} cum is quas postea duxis/sent dumtaxat singulis(!) singu/las Nonis Aprilibus Caesere(!) Aug/usti f(ilio) Domitiano Cn(aeo) Pedio Casco co(n)s(ulibus) / Baslel Turbeli f(ilio) Gallinaria Sarniensis / descriptum et recognitum ex t[abu]la / quae fixa est Romae in Capitolio [in] / podio arae gentis Iuliae / tab(ula) III pag(ina) VI loc(o) XIX // I[mp(erator) Ca]eser(!) Vespasianus Aug(ustus) pontifex m[ax(imus)] / t[rib(unicia) pot(estate) II] imp(erator) VI p(ater) p(atriae) co(n)sul III desig(natus) IIII / veteranis qui militaverunt in classe Mi/seniense(!) sub Sex(to) Lucilio Basso qui sena et vi/cena stipendia aut plura meruerunt et / sunt deducti Paestum quorum nomina / subscripta sunt ipsis liberis posterisque e/orum civitatem dedit et conubium cum / uxoribus quas tunc habuissent cum est ci/vitas is data aut si qui caelibes essent cum i(i)s / quas postea duxissent dumtaxat singuli sing(ulas) / Nonis Aprilibus Caesere(!) Aug(usti) f(ilio) Domitiano ©n(aeo) / Pedio Casco co(n)s(ulibus) / Baslel Turbeli f(ilio) <G=C>allinaria Sa/rniensis descriptu(m) et recognitu(m) ex tabula ae/nea quae fixa est Rom(ae) in Cap(itolio) in pod(io) arae gentis / Iuliae tab(ula) III pag(ina) VI loc(o) XIX // Ti(beri) Iuli Fab(iani) Cestiani / C(ai) Iuli Cornel(i) Nigri / M(arci) Valeri Alexsandn(!) / Alexsandri Magni Macedon(i?) / L(uci) Valeri Veri / L(uci) Licini Pudentis / L(uci) Rufini Chaerea[e]


M. Spedius Corbulo

Interesting..
On another note I could read most of this passage by looking at it, and I dont know latin Confusedhock:
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Hope it helps.

Not half!

Thanks, Spedius, you're a marvel!
Quote:Interesting..
On another note I could read most of this passage by looking at it, and I dont know latin Confusedhock:

Ave Gaius Honorius Felix,

OK, I'll bite, what does it say?

Just you, I know that people like Jasper can read Latin.

Vale

M. Spedius Corbulo
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spedius:1ac8rph0 Wrote:Hope it helps.
Not half!
Thanks, Spedius, you're a marvel!

Ave Carus Andiae,

No problem, glad to be of assistance.

I'm curious to know where you found the information mentioned in your opening post? Sources please.

Vale

M. Spedius Corbulo
The original post on Roman Camps was inspired by an artical in the Annual Bulletin of the Societe Jersiaise (No. XXII, 1979, pp. 281-285) by Charles Stevens called 'Caesarea - Roman Jersey?' or someting like that.

The info about the Sarniensis diploma was in David E. Johnston, The Channel Islands: An Archaeological Guide, (Phillimore & Co., 1981) 'The Roman Period' p. 46.

The concept that there was a naval base in the Channel Islands has been around for donkey's years.
Quote:The original post on Roman Camps was inspired by an artical in the Annual Bulletin of the Societe Jersiaise (No. XXII, 1979, pp. 281-285) by Charles Stevens called 'Caesarea - Roman Jersey?' or someting like that.
The info about the Sarniensis diploma was in David E. Johnston, The Channel Islands: An Archaeological Guide, (Phillimore & Co., 1981) 'The Roman Period' p. 46.
The concept that there was a naval base in the Channel Islands has been around for donkey's years.

Ave Carus Andiae,

Thank you for your sources.

I do hope that you were able to get the information you were seeking from the diploma?

Vale

M. Spedius Corbulo