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Show here your gladiator impression
#31
Back to the topic, here are some pics the press did at our Training Weekend in Xanten back in april.
As we did only training and the weather was quite cold at that weekend we opted to train in tunics:

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Olaf Küppers - Histotainment, Event und Promotion - Germany
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#32
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Caivs Molinarivs Blandvs, Vinarivs et Mvrmillo "Lvpvs"
aka Wolf M.
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#33
Since Wolf edited his post I would still like to debate my point on the possibility metal manica existing in a gladiatorial context.

Second, the metal manica debate is not even resolved amongst the scholars and I wont argue against either Connoly nor Junkelmann, but if you have the new edition of Junkelmann, you might want to look up page 203 and 204 where even Junkelmann admits that a segmented metal arm guard over cloth padding can not be discounted.
Picture 343 on page 203 actualy depicts such a construction worn by a secutor on a painted shard found in Vindolanda, England.
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#34
Quote:Second, the metal manica debate is not even resolved amongst the scholars and I wont argue against either Connoly nor Junkelmann, but if you have the new edition of Junkelmann, you might want to look up page 203 and 204 where even Junkelmann admits that a segmented metal arm guard over cloth padding can not be discounted.
Picture 343 on page 203 actualy depicts such a construction worn by a secutor on a painted shard found in Vindolanda, England.

Regards,
Olaf

If I'm not mistaken metal manicae at least in the army appeared only in the 2nd or 3rd century AD so I guess it would have been similar with gladiators. But aren't you gladiators of 1st century AD?
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#35
Well the advent of the segmented metall manica in the roman army is still uncertain, but if you go by this excellent article
[url:1u7752zo]http://www.romanarmy.net/manica.htm[/url]
metall manica were used as early as mid first century AD.
Incidentaly these manica are depicted on tombstones of soldiers stationded in Mainz.

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#36
Finally I can show something from my gladiator impression.

First here is the display with much of the gladiator arms and armor of Corbvlo at our set-up at the Museumpark Orientalis, today

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At the moment we've the following roles in our set up:
Editor, Lanista, Medicvs, Retiarivs and Secutor. Soon to add: Traex.

And of course some real dangerous gladiators:
(picture taken at Lisse some weeks ago by Robert Vermaat/Vortigern)
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More pictures (including myself and training photos) to follow.
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Jvrjenivs Peregrinvs Magnvs / FEBRVARIVS
A.K.A. Jurjen Draaisma
CORBVLO and Fectio
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#37
As mentioned before: looking good!! 8)

Greetz,
Manuel Peters
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#38
Here some pics from our show in Leipzig for the ROM 312 Exhibition in the Panometer Leipzig.
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More on our website.
Olaf Küppers - Histotainment, Event und Promotion - Germany
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#39
Okay, some more pics:

Training fight between secutor (me) and retiarius. Note that my helmet and the galerus are still in the fabrica, so that's why we did a simple training without those.

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Februarivs (me):

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A.K.A. Jurjen Draaisma
CORBVLO and Fectio
ALA I BATAVORUM
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#40
The lanista, training his new gladiators:
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The new boy killed a seasoned gladiator
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And the medicvs
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A.K.A. Jurjen Draaisma
CORBVLO and Fectio
ALA I BATAVORUM
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#41
Me, with my new helmet, in Bergkamen (germany) at the Museumfest

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A.K.A. Jurjen Draaisma
CORBVLO and Fectio
ALA I BATAVORUM
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#42
Nice. Doesn't it seem sort of claustrophobic when the retarius is running all around, and you can barely see/breathe? I guess that's what they had in mind.

What kind of pad do you use inside to support the bowl? Do you add a chin strap for security?
M. Demetrius Abicio
(David Wills)

Saepe veritas est dura.
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#43
I now train with it for a couple of weeks and got very well used to it, so I don't have any problem with it, but still I've to know exactly how long the trident is and how big my scutum, as I don't be able to see the front of the trident when stabbed at me. So the sight is enough, for me.

I can breathe enough in that helmet. I trained about one hour without putting down that helmet, but my head will be very red when I turn of the helmet, as it's heavy. (about 4 kg)

I use 3 pieces of the simple deepeeka padding inside the helmet and chin strap for security, which is needed to make sure I can get blows on the helmet and fight 'save'.
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A.K.A. Jurjen Draaisma
CORBVLO and Fectio
ALA I BATAVORUM
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#44
Ave Jurjen,
You could try to fill with pharmaceutical wool

I am happy for you. Big Grin
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#45
Nice indeed!
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