05-13-2007, 08:57 PM
To Sean: Interesting -- I was referring to Athens, and your comment certainly opens another possibility.
I shall refrain from the obvious "special pleading" that so many use, and not say, can we be sure it refers to contemporary rather than heroic from one tiny fragment?Or that even so, it refers to Ionia, which may be regarded as Asiatic rather than mainland Greece.
Instead, I shall say well done, an interesting piece of evidence!
What is your source here? A modern commentary on early greek literature?
I would be most interested.
To Matt; I have set out the sources for evidence, so that everyone can decide for themselves. Up until now, there has been absolutely no contemporary evidence for linen. If the case for a leather Spolas is not strong, the case for linen made out here is so far non-existent, with the honourable exception of the Alcaeus reference set out above by Sean which looks promising, though as a single piece of evidence it is hardly conclusive.
regards, Paullus Scipio/Paul McDonnell-Staff [/b]
I shall refrain from the obvious "special pleading" that so many use, and not say, can we be sure it refers to contemporary rather than heroic from one tiny fragment?Or that even so, it refers to Ionia, which may be regarded as Asiatic rather than mainland Greece.
Instead, I shall say well done, an interesting piece of evidence!
What is your source here? A modern commentary on early greek literature?
I would be most interested.
To Matt; I have set out the sources for evidence, so that everyone can decide for themselves. Up until now, there has been absolutely no contemporary evidence for linen. If the case for a leather Spolas is not strong, the case for linen made out here is so far non-existent, with the honourable exception of the Alcaeus reference set out above by Sean which looks promising, though as a single piece of evidence it is hardly conclusive.
regards, Paullus Scipio/Paul McDonnell-Staff [/b]
"dulce et decorum est pro patria mori " - Horace
(It is a sweet and proper thing to die for ones country)
"No son-of-a-bitch ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country" - George C Scott as General George S. Patton
Paul McDonnell-Staff
(It is a sweet and proper thing to die for ones country)
"No son-of-a-bitch ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country" - George C Scott as General George S. Patton
Paul McDonnell-Staff
