06-22-2006, 10:25 AM
Hi there guys, here are some musings I have had/found on the subject:
Downwards facing overlaps (like roof tiles) are simpler to make, in so far that the individual segments can be longer as they slide across each other quite nicely and move well at the elbow. Upwards facing ones tend to lock and so need to be individually quite thin to work well with each.
I have found evidence for both up and downward facng manica from gladiatorial depictions and plenty of evidence of 'lazy boy' carving where the shape of the arm is simply shown with a series of lines across it showing something was going on but who knows.
In these examples the lapping is upwards on both the arm and the leg: http://www.ludus.org.uk/pics/grave04.jpg http://www.ludus.org.uk/pics/grave02.jpg
I am at work and struggling to find gladiatorial versions of the downward config ...
In this example its is simply banding, either a 'lazy' artisan or possibly a depiction of tied padding? http://www.ludus.org.uk/pics/oillamp01.jpg
Most examples, particularly mosaic, seem undeterminable.
Given that lots of metal survived Pompeii (helmets) I always find it odd that no manica survived. I believe, certainly at the time the volcano buried everything that manica where probably cloth, leather or fabric and not metal.
Whilst the look of metal is a lot flasher, I am slowly trying to replace most of my group with leather or fabric manica ...what do you all think?
Downwards facing overlaps (like roof tiles) are simpler to make, in so far that the individual segments can be longer as they slide across each other quite nicely and move well at the elbow. Upwards facing ones tend to lock and so need to be individually quite thin to work well with each.
I have found evidence for both up and downward facng manica from gladiatorial depictions and plenty of evidence of 'lazy boy' carving where the shape of the arm is simply shown with a series of lines across it showing something was going on but who knows.
In these examples the lapping is upwards on both the arm and the leg: http://www.ludus.org.uk/pics/grave04.jpg http://www.ludus.org.uk/pics/grave02.jpg
I am at work and struggling to find gladiatorial versions of the downward config ...
In this example its is simply banding, either a 'lazy' artisan or possibly a depiction of tied padding? http://www.ludus.org.uk/pics/oillamp01.jpg
Most examples, particularly mosaic, seem undeterminable.
Given that lots of metal survived Pompeii (helmets) I always find it odd that no manica survived. I believe, certainly at the time the volcano buried everything that manica where probably cloth, leather or fabric and not metal.
Whilst the look of metal is a lot flasher, I am slowly trying to replace most of my group with leather or fabric manica ...what do you all think?
